Expert Macro for Points

[Espritduo]

I'm not gonna argue about macros being bad or not, but 766 is still terrible. It's twice as much time and resources spent than just doing the things manually once you get the hang of them. I've crafted enough of these things to get the mount and yes, after a few thousand you are basically running on autopilot. I was averaging 1200 points per turnin at 30-40 steps and was doing it in my sleep by the end. I mean, if you just have to find an easier way to do it regardless of how wildly inefficient it is, you can use these macros, it's not like they don't work. Just be prepared to take WAY longer and use up WAY more mats.

[Kakure]

I'm not gonna argue about macros being bad or not, but 766 is still terrible.

Then what exactly are you arguing? That my results are terrible relative to other macros? That's flatly wrong. I tried the few macros I could find and nothing produced results anywhere close to the ones I've been getting from this setup. If anyone has a better macro system for expert crafting, prove me wrong. Seriously. If there is a better macro out there, I would happily use that instead.

It sounds like you are arguing that my results are terrible because they don't compare to what you were getting manually, which is an argument about macro crafting. The goal of manual crafting is to maximize your points. The goal of macro crafting is to maximize points while minimizing effort and tedium. It's apples and oranges. Of course you get more points for staring at the screen and playing "respond to the condition" than for crafting in the background while you do other things (though not as many more as you suggest: double 766 would be 1532 points per turn-in on average -- substantially more than whatever you were getting).

Realistically, manual crafting would take me roughly 2/3 as long as it does using this macro. I consider that a pretty good tradeoff and I posted this for anyone who is either struggling with expert crafting or simply doesn't want to suffer through 100-some hours of tedium to get the achievements. You're entitled to think that is a bad tradeoff. That's your prerogative. I am not trying to convince anyone to use this macro or any other, but I am proud of the results I have gotten over a month of theorycrafting and tracking and tinkering and I take issue with the characterization of my results as terrible. If you have a more efficient way I can grind skyward points while playing Age of Wonders, I'm all ears.

ive managed to get to max quality a couple of times per day by being lucky. i got 6th place as alchemist, i had help by my friends who were gathering stuff for me , i did it for 4 days nonstop till i was burned out completely at which point i had reached first with 1 day remaining before the results were out and if i remember my average was 5700+ per craft. and since i was getting around 70-130k point per day , reaching 450k total, i realised that i was doing around 100 collectibles........per day. not sure how worth it it was.... but im wearing that title now and it aint leaving till my ptsd is gone and have to tackle the 500k points in all jobs challenge TT

Nice! I completely understand the burnout. I needed a three-month break before I was ready to start expert crafting again.

[Jojoya]

The goal of macro crafting is to maximize points while minimizing effort and tedium.

Just my personal opinion, but I would find using your macros even more tedious and annoying than doing Expert crafting manually. You're still stuck there waiting on macro progress so you can switch to the next one, which is a constant interruption of whatever you're doing with your time while the macros are running. Effort isn't that much less if someone is manually doing the opener and finisher you have listed.

At least with manual crafting, I'm watching conditions and reacting to make the best use of them. That makes it a more interesting use of my time than watching the game play itself.

Each to their own, of course. If someone wants to use those macros, it's their choice. Thank you for sharing with those who are interested.