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[BasicBlake]

I don’t know, why don’t you ask the jobs that have positional requirements.

But then again, positional impact would be different from positional requirement. Like small effects change that doesn’t break what you intend to do.

Those classes use positionals with their own bodies. It’s not a whole Sacred Soil type ability sir. You want a placed bubble with limited aoe range, in fights that require a lot of movement. That is not the same as a Samurai hitting the back or flank of a boss throughout an encounter.

[AceofRains]

I really wouldn’t put my money on that to be honest. This is just a renamed version of what other people want for placing terrain. It would be a class requiring all other party members to utilize it 100% for it to be useful outside of a cool down.

Between the design teams dislike of pet class balancing and targeted aoe abilities, you pretty much just described their worst nightmare of implementation.

Are you joking me right now? A Luopan is an actual tool used for Feng Shui Geomancy. I was going to get it as a gift for my friend who is in to Feng Shui, and he already had one- he just didn’t realize it was called a Luopan.

I really don’t care what your worst nightmares about it are dude. I’m only taking about the aspects of what makes a Feng Shui Geomancer- not how the job will be set in stone. Like sheesh cry me a river. I’m out- there really is no pleasing you forum dwellers.

Those classes use positionals with their own bodies. It’s not a whole Sacred Soil type ability sir. You want a placed bubble with limited aoe range, in fights that require a lot of movement. That is not the same as a Samurai hitting the back or flank of a boss throughout an encounter.

Nowhere did I say this.

[BasicBlake]

Are you joking me right now? A Luopan is an actual tool used for Feng Shui Geomancy. I was going to get it as a gift for my friend who is in to Feng Shui, and he already had one- he just didn’t realize it was called a Luopan.

I really don’t care what your worst nightmares about it are dude. I’m only taking about the aspects of what makes a Feng Shui Geomancer- not how the job will be set in stone. Like sheesh cry me a river. I’m out- there really is no pleasing you forum dwellers.

Who is crying? I’m saying you’re being impractical. Geomancers has Loupans in FFXI and I am stating it would be an impractical implementation. Don’t get mad at me because what you imagine wouldn’t work outside of expert roulette. And it’s not my worst nightmare, it’s the design team’s. You are talking about some gift you got your bestie and I'm talking about an actual ability in a game having to do with the workings of a class in the FF universe.

Take a seat and go get lunch.

Based on your edit you have no idea what I am talking about. You somehow knew to look up one aspect of Geoamancer from 11 but not the rest. The whiplash I just got from you starting off talking about 11 to you talking about gifts you got in real life... I looked you up and you do have healers leveled so you'll get it. Loupans exist in the FF universe, they are placed and have an aoe like Doton, Earthly Star, Sacred Soil, etc.

[SeikishiYuuki]

I don’t know, why don’t you ask the jobs that have positional requirements.

But then again, positional impact would be different from positional requirement. Like small effects change that doesn’t break what you intend to do.

Yea but if your laying a field aoe, a thing that is already inherently rough in savage/ultimates and boss moves its not a melee who can move with the boss, its just there on the ground. Or during mechanics that force you to be in specific places directional relevance gets real bad. Melee have abilities like True North.

[BasicBlake]

Yea but if your laying a field aoe, a thing that is already inherently rough in savage/ultimates and boss moves its not a melee who can move with the boss, its just there on the ground. Or during mechanics that force you to be in specific places directional relevance gets real bad. Melee have abilities like True North.

He's not talking about FFXI anymore, he switched without telling anyone. He went from FFXI to real life loupans for a friend. He doesn't understand they are placed like abilities in game.

[AceofRains]

Who is crying? I’m saying you’re being impractical. Geomancers has Loupans in FFXI and I am stating it would be an impractical implementation. Don’t get mad at me because what you imagine wouldn’t work outside of expert roulette. And it’s not my worst nightmare, it’s the design team’s. You are talking about some gift you got your bestie and I'm talking about an actual ability in a game having to do with the workings of a class in the FF universe.

Take a seat and go get lunch.

Based on your edit you have no idea what I am talking about. You somehow knew to look up one aspect of Geoamancer from 11 but not the rest. The whiplash I just got from you starting off talking about 11 to you talking about gifts you got in real life... I looked you up and you do have healers leveled so you'll get it. Loupans exist in the FF universe, they are placed and have an aoe like Doton, Earthly Star, Sacred Soil, etc.

Nowhere did I imply that the field AoE would be change when placed based off your position. Your positioning would be small things like bonus to Direct or Critical hit from the left or right. I did explicitly say however that field AoE could change based on which Qi you used to enhance it, which has nothing to do with positioning.

Like I said though, I’m out. You guys are absolutely exhausting to communicate with, because you make very silly assumption and constantly misunderstand eachother.

[MirronTulaxia]

Oh, I fully expect him to deliver something that isn't a Geomancer over him respecting the job, especially with the hints. I'm just saying they shouldn't have gone that road. It wouldn't be the first time and so long as we get new jobs I doubt it'll be the last. It's just disappointing with each new one they toss onto the pyre. It really makes their respecting Blue Mage, nice as it is, very unusual.

As for how they could balance that I feel there are again a lot of ways they could try to go about it without it being impossible, but honestly at this point it just seems like it'll be something super generic with the name Geomancer slapped on for kicks. *shrugs* When there has been about one job per expansion at least that's kind of messed up it's hard to have a ton of optimism.

[BasicBlake]

Nowhere did I imply that the field AoE would be change when placed based off your position. Your positioning would be small things like bonus to Direct or Critical hit from the left or right.

Like I said though, I’m out. You guys are absolutely exhausting to communicate with, because you make very silly assumption and constantly misunderstand eachother.

I am sorry you were not able to get your points across by talking about something in a game, switching to real life, and then to something else and people couldn’t follow your train of thought.

Bye

[Archwizard]

A spellcaster that uses positionals like a melee could be an interesting concept... for a DPS. I can't think of any way in which that adding such limitations would be beneficial to a healer.

Could even give it some odd shapes for casts like conal effects to impact its position relative to the combat.

[BasicBlake]

A spellcaster that uses positionals like a melee could be an interesting concept... for a DPS. I can't think of any way in which that adding such limitations would be beneficial to a healer.

Could even give it some odd shapes for casts like conal effects to impact its position relative to the combat.

There was actually a really cool concept made on twitter about a Geo with back and flank positionals. Was like Water had none, but combo'd into Stone which needed back, into Aero needed flank. And if you got them off it reduced the next combo's cast time (which was instant casts after 3 full combos and kept up as long as you did the rotation. You built up a job gauge into a channeled finisher that ticked damage.

I was actually quite good. The support abilities were a little overtuned but it looked quite good.