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[BasicBlake]

Luopans to facilitate***. Feng Shui will assuredly be the focus of this job. I can’t say how they’ll do it, but I can imagine what aspects might be involved.

No one is disputing the Feng Shui. Everything in the game and lore book agrees with that. But having to stand North/South/East/West would be a terrible idea to add.

Also we have nothing about Loupans in game. They have been adding stuff for 3 years now. I feel like if we were going to be getting Loupans like 11 they would have been in Swallow’s Compass, the lore book or at the very least those placeholder Ast quests.

[AceofRains]

No one is disputing the Feng Shui. Everything in the game and lore book agrees with that. But having to stand North/South/East/West would be a terrible idea to add.

Positioning being relevant doesn’t mean you’re going to be standing in front of the boss, nobody is disputing that either.. It could refer to the Luopans position, or be akin to the positional requirements that some jobs do feature. Like, positioning in front of an enemy could easily be made to benefit you specifically during solo play. So, no denying that doesn’t hold up.

Though not yet mentioned by name, it’s worth noting that Luopan IS THE COMPASS.

[BasicBlake]

Positioning being relevant doesn’t mean you’re going to be standing in front of the boss, nobody is disputing that either.. It could refer to the Luopans position, or be akin to the positional requirements that some jobs do feature. Like, positioning in front of an enemy could easily be made to benefit you specifically during solo play. So, no denying that doesn’t hold up.

Though not yet mentioned by name, it’s worth noting that Luopan IS THE COMPASS.

I really wouldn’t put my money on that to be honest. This is just a renamed version of what other people want for placing terrain. It would be a class requiring all other party members to utilize it 100% for it to be useful outside of a cool down.

Between the design teams dislike of pet class balancing and targeted aoe abilities, you pretty much just described their worst nightmare of implementation.

[AceofRains]

I really wouldn’t put my money on that to be honest. This is just a renamed version of what other people want for placing terrain. It would be a class requiring all other party members to utilize it 100% for it to be useful outside of a cool down.

Between the design teams dislike of pet class balancing and targeted aoe abilities, you pretty much just described their worst nightmare of implementation.

Are you joking me right now? A Luopan is an actual tool used for Feng Shui Geomancy. I was going to get it as a gift for my friend who is in to Feng Shui, and he already had one- he just didn’t realize it was called a Luopan.

I really don’t care what your worst nightmares about it are dude. I’m only taking about the aspects of what makes a Feng Shui Geomancer- not how the job will be set in stone. Like sheesh cry me a river. I’m out- there really is no pleasing you forum dwellers.

Those classes use positionals with their own bodies. It’s not a whole Sacred Soil type ability sir. You want a placed bubble with limited aoe range, in fights that require a lot of movement. That is not the same as a Samurai hitting the back or flank of a boss throughout an encounter.

Nowhere did I say this.

[BasicBlake]

Are you joking me right now? A Luopan is an actual tool used for Feng Shui Geomancy. I was going to get it as a gift for my friend who is in to Feng Shui, and he already had one- he just didn’t realize it was called a Luopan.

I really don’t care what your worst nightmares about it are dude. I’m only taking about the aspects of what makes a Feng Shui Geomancer- not how the job will be set in stone. Like sheesh cry me a river. I’m out- there really is no pleasing you forum dwellers.

Who is crying? I’m saying you’re being impractical. Geomancers has Loupans in FFXI and I am stating it would be an impractical implementation. Don’t get mad at me because what you imagine wouldn’t work outside of expert roulette. And it’s not my worst nightmare, it’s the design team’s. You are talking about some gift you got your bestie and I'm talking about an actual ability in a game having to do with the workings of a class in the FF universe.

Take a seat and go get lunch.

Based on your edit you have no idea what I am talking about. You somehow knew to look up one aspect of Geoamancer from 11 but not the rest. The whiplash I just got from you starting off talking about 11 to you talking about gifts you got in real life... I looked you up and you do have healers leveled so you'll get it. Loupans exist in the FF universe, they are placed and have an aoe like Doton, Earthly Star, Sacred Soil, etc.

[AceofRains]

Who is crying? I’m saying you’re being impractical. Geomancers has Loupans in FFXI and I am stating it would be an impractical implementation. Don’t get mad at me because what you imagine wouldn’t work outside of expert roulette. And it’s not my worst nightmare, it’s the design team’s. You are talking about some gift you got your bestie and I'm talking about an actual ability in a game having to do with the workings of a class in the FF universe.

Take a seat and go get lunch.

Based on your edit you have no idea what I am talking about. You somehow knew to look up one aspect of Geoamancer from 11 but not the rest. The whiplash I just got from you starting off talking about 11 to you talking about gifts you got in real life... I looked you up and you do have healers leveled so you'll get it. Loupans exist in the FF universe, they are placed and have an aoe like Doton, Earthly Star, Sacred Soil, etc.

Nowhere did I imply that the field AoE would be change when placed based off your position. Your positioning would be small things like bonus to Direct or Critical hit from the left or right. I did explicitly say however that field AoE could change based on which Qi you used to enhance it, which has nothing to do with positioning.

Like I said though, I’m out. You guys are absolutely exhausting to communicate with, because you make very silly assumption and constantly misunderstand eachother.

[BasicBlake]

Nowhere did I imply that the field AoE would be change when placed based off your position. Your positioning would be small things like bonus to Direct or Critical hit from the left or right.

Like I said though, I’m out. You guys are absolutely exhausting to communicate with, because you make very silly assumption and constantly misunderstand eachother.

I am sorry you were not able to get your points across by talking about something in a game, switching to real life, and then to something else and people couldn’t follow your train of thought.

Bye

[SeikishiYuuki]

Positioning being relevant doesn’t mean you’re going to be standing in front of the boss, nobody is disputing that either.. It could refer to the Luopans position, or be akin to the positional requirements that some jobs do feature. Like, positioning in front of an enemy could easily be made to benefit you specifically during solo play. So, no denying that doesn’t hold up.

Though not yet mentioned by name, it’s worth noting that Luopan IS THE COMPASS.

I'm curious, how would this work in a fight like Savage or Ultimates? Where bosses frequently reposition or ppl need to regularly be moving to different parts of the arena to handle mechanics?

[BasicBlake]

I'm curious, how would this work in a fight like Savage or Ultimates? Where bosses frequently reposition or ppl need to regularly be moving to different parts of the arena to handle mechanics?

Easy, you only play it in Expert roulette.

[AceofRains]

I'm curious, how would this work in a fight like Savage or Ultimates? Where bosses frequently reposition or ppl need to regularly be moving to different parts of the arena to handle mechanics?

I don’t know, why don’t you ask the jobs that have positional requirements.

But then again, positional impact would be different from positional requirement. Like small effects change that doesn’t break what you intend to do.