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[MirronTulaxia]

I mean, the issue with "well White Mages only use Light because of Shadowbringers stuff" is that we have Sin Eater Conjurers. They still use Earth and Wind. If Sin Eaters, beings purely of light aether just about, aren't turning their spells into Glare/Dia and instead get Sanctified Stone or the like then the obvious answer is that the White Mage is just changing to Light themed things.

And I'm not really sure where you're going with the names and such, just seems kind of odd. Anyways, Fire/Ice (Thunder is kind of weakly represented in Black Mage) are in Black Mage. Light is represented in White Mage. Thunder/Wind kind of get more of a role in Red Mage than other elements, but it's kind of a weak focus, maybe they'll add more to it. I doubt it but I feel it would kind of help it stand out elementally speaking as opposed to the more hodgepodge they currently have. The others are even more weakly represented at best, and I wouldn't call any of them "all elements", certainly not Summoner at least currently. Water/Earth could certainly see some focus if Geomancer becomes a thing, though I'll add to that this is looking at it purely in an offensive standpoint, as most of these elements are represented outside of damage dealing stuff, and Dark for Astro is... eh, kind of weak too.

[Hank_Hotspur]

Whatever the next round of jobs are, I hope they fill out the gear that only one job currently use if they are melee. I have to admit I really don't like leveling Dragoon or Ninja knowing that my inventory will be filled up with numerous gear pieces only they can use while I can casually hop between all my tank or rDPS jobs to mix things up and only have to worry of getting different weapons.

[Jirah]

I still have faith theyll fix MCH to be less spamy and toothless and more structured and intuitive so i dont want another gunner job taking up the very limited slots we got left before "Rhapsodies of Eorzea"

Healer and Caster seems to be the most requested I do love me some Geomancer or perhaps a Magic Knight. Healers idk what theyll do Druid, Medic, Necormancer , Whisperer, Chemist, Apothacary, Elementalist Time Mage, Illusionist, ive heard some good ideas but nothing super unique or practical. Whichever jobs gets picked i hope to god it does NOT start at level 70 at that point just make it start at 90 ffs

[KaerisKlyne]

Whatever the next round of jobs are, I hope they fill out the gear that only one job currently use if they are melee. I have to admit I really don't like leveling Dragoon or Ninja knowing that my inventory will be filled up with numerous gear pieces only they can use while I can casually hop between all my tank or rDPS jobs to mix things up and only have to worry of getting different weapons.

New job introductions have never been gear-based and have always been role-based. I don't know how this debate keeps coming up on these forums. Melee DPS are melee DPS, the gear they wear doesn't impact whether or not another melee DPS is coming. We just got a new physical ranged DPS bringing it up to 3, the next likeliest is magical ranged DPS alongside a healer, both of which have been teased and show signs of more coming through the rest of Shadowbringers.

[KaerisKlyne]

I still have faith theyll fix MCH to be less spamy and toothless and more structured and intuitive so i dont want another gunner job taking up the very limited slots we got left before "Rhapsodies of Eorzea"

Healer and Caster seems to be the most requested I do love me some Geomancer or perhaps a Magic Knight. Healers idk what theyll do Druid, Medic, Necormancer , Whisperer, Chemist, Apothacary, Elementalist Time Mage, Illusionist, ive heard some good ideas but nothing super unique or practical. Whichever jobs gets picked i hope to god it does NOT start at level 70 at that point just make it start at 90 ffs

Why would SE, a business, ever make a new job for a new expac start at the new level cap when so much of the draw is leveling up that new job however you want to to play the new story on? The first ten levels are for players to acclimate themselves to a new job, the next ten are to get comfortable as new skills are introduced so that players are comfortable starting the new expac on the new job if they decide to.

[Tracewood]

Going to say this while I'm feeling tipsy...

"Keyblader"


Why keyblades? Because it's a hot Square Enix property and I'm, somewhat sure Disney doesn't have rights to the name and look of the weapon. Our WoL/D wields DUAL keyblades with otherworldly powers. Uses scouting gear like Ninja.

Think about it? KH has the darkness, we have the rift of the 13th, or voidsent. Have the job class start at the Gold Saucer, where our job master is a hooded dwarf from the First who can crossover to OTHER worlds (not shards, worlds like how Nier is a part of FFXIV now.) Why is a dwarf on the Source? He tagged along with a certain Gentleman of Darkness after a not currently disclosed adventure! He is an inventor of strange and unique weapons and trinkets, and his masterpiece is the keyblade in which he wields two to fell sin eaters before the Warrior of Darkness came on the scene. Before coming to the first, he had a battle with Greg, who wanted the keyblade for himself. Eventually, Greg had enough and opened a portal to the source. The dwarf wondered around the desert until he found the Saucer, and set up shop selling his wares to would be adventurers for MGP. (soulstone and keyblades)

Maybe, the dev team could just weave a unique Hildebrand storyline into that job class? Imagine having the Dwarf, Hilde, Natsu, as our traveling companions? While facing a sorcerer (A leftover ascian protege) who is trying to "fix" Emet's failed attempt in merging the 13th with the source, by flooding the source with "darkness". I'll let the writing team sort that out far better than what I hobbled together.

Cheers!

[Archwizard]

Going to say this while I'm feeling tipsy...

"Keyblader"

Why keyblades? Because it's a hot Square Enix property and I'm, somewhat sure Disney doesn't have rights to the name and look of the weapon.

You might be surprised there. Disney and Square's joint ownership of KH properties has made it notoriously difficult to have crossover events with other media (for instance, why Sora isn't in Smash Bros yet despite him being one of the single-most popular choices approaching KH3's release and it being a great way to market the game when its full-price DLC was released), since both companies have to give clearance for the likenesses to be implemented and The Mouse is extremely protective of its brand.
I believe Square also has an interesting rule where characters are "officially" owned by their designers (so Nomura owns like... half of the character rights at the company at this point), which I would expect to apply to their appearances and equipment as well, though I'm not sure how this applies to the KH series since it's a joint property.

Granting, there have been several games that have implemented key-like weapons that just didn't call them Keyblades, since the iconography of a key isn't trademarked any more than guns are. So Square could circumvent this if they really wanted to.
But, there's not a lot of reason for Square to want to add it if it's not intended to be representative of a Square property, so it would sort of defeat the point of implementing the job in the first place to do so. I expect it would be more likely for them to introduce a standard Spellblade job (perhaps sharing Maiming gear with Dragoon), since it has more precedent within the FF series.

[Jirah]

Why would SE, a business, ever make a new job for a new expac start at the new level cap when so much of the draw is leveling up that new job however you want to to play the new story on? The first ten levels are for players to acclimate themselves to a new job, the next ten are to get comfortable as new skills are introduced so that players are comfortable starting the new expac on the new job if they decide to.

Was fine with 50 for SB, not as optimal as 30 but did aid new players so they can finish ARR with a new job. 60 was severely pushing it. im 100% down to start at 30 hell even level 1. Starting so high comes with many disadvantages some being smaller job quests (in 70 case no job quest) lack of weapon glamours (how many Primal weapons does DNC have?) and far from reach to new players. If u wanna play GNB u have to overlevel then play HW with half ur tools missing up until the finale. I just hope they dont do 70

[CKNovel]

Going to say this while I'm feeling tipsy...

"Keyblader"

If I want to play with Keyblade, I'll play KH.
And I don't play KH anymore since a long time, now.

FF XIV jobs should be limited to Final Fantasy jobs or "XIV jobs" like Gunbreaker, introduced in VIII but introduced as a job in XIV.

Let's keep KH to KH and FF to FF. I know there is a lot of KH fans here and here, but there is also players that don't appreciate KH.
I believe many would be disappointed to see a Keyblade wielder instead of a Rune Knight/Necromancer/Apothicary/Chemist/Gunner/Introduce any FF jobs, while only a fraction of the community will enjoy it.
The job might work as a limited job, but a fully fledged job would be disappointing.

Also Void =/= Darkness, it's two complete different things. Darkness, in KH, is a bad thing while Light is the best good thing. In FF, those are simply aspect, none is good, none is bad.

On top of that, Disney copyright. You don't mess with Disney copyright.

[Willcross12]

So what if instead of what we saw for Berserker we actually made it A duel wielding class Inspired by Rabahn?

Since back in arr he always had the duel swords, It would be easy to make his blades a preorder reward of the class even possibly making the class have a dark knight / warrior setup?

I also believe its easy since could turn that move the dungeon berserker had where he made craters in the ground into a salted earth like move.

If you wanna go crazy could inspire his lunge and his Area pull from god of war maybe or even make his Limit break involve combining both his blades into some crazy barrier move?