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    Quote Originally Posted by Airlea View Post
    This is a common misconception now. That used to be the way to go...until everyone started doing it. Companies have long since realized this and dropped their prices on builds for the most part. You can find a pre-packaged deal with nearly exactly what you want far cheaper than buying parts individually and building it yourself. Not to mention it's more convenient.

    Edit: I'm not saying one or the other will always be cheaper. I'm saying shop around with both methods since either one could be cheaper depending on what you're looking for. It's about 50/50.
    But then that just takes all the fun out of building it yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airlea View Post
    This is a common misconception now. That used to be the way to go...until everyone started doing it. Companies have long since realized this and dropped their prices on builds for the most part. You can find a pre-packaged deal with nearly exactly what you want far cheaper than buying parts individually and building it yourself. Not to mention it's more convenient.

    Edit: I'm not saying one or the other will always be cheaper. I'm saying shop around with both methods since either one could be cheaper depending on what you're looking for. It's about 50/50.
    Can't say I ever found pre-packaged deals that were more convenient than buying the parts (not saying they don't exist, but my experience points to the opposite), but again, that's not even the main point.

    Unfortunately most pre-packaged computers tend to include (again, to my experience) a catch somewhere (they have to make a profit after all), like the aforementioned low quality power source or other underestimated components, or even refurbished parts sold as new.
    It may be mostly personal preference, but I wouldn't trust a PC for which I can't see each component in a sealed box

    I actually forgot another important point. The memory. They often label the memory they give you as "corsair or other major brand" and that's a major question mark. First of all they don't guarantee the brand of your memory (which isn't exactly secondary, since there's a wide gap in quality between different brands), and even between the same brand, say Corsair, there's a *major* difference between Corsair Dominator sticks and lower end sticks like Corsair Valueselect. So I would make sure to check with the retailer exactly what they're going to put on your PC. If they refuse to specify, then chose another retailer, because ValueSelect (or worse) is most probably what you're going to get.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 03-23-2011 at 06:17 AM.

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    If you can, up your graphics card to a 560 (instead of 550) for increased life usefulness within reason.
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    GeForce GTX 570 1280MB what about that?
    or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB
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    Last edited by Eagle7D8; 03-24-2011 at 12:08 AM.

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    nice rigs more then yes. you overkill it.
    but 2 things.
    Get a SATA III Hard Drive. SATA II will slow you down and they are the same price.
    Dont forget also to have a 64Bit OS. 1. you'll be able to use your 6 gigs of ram. second its simply faster.

    Also if its only for gaming, you paying for a I7 for nothing. I5 is more then enough by far.
    but if you intend of doing any rendering, run a DB then I7 it is.

    PS. dont pay more for a GPU. when time come to upgrade. just buy a second one and put it in SLI.
    by that time they will cost nothing and you'll kick ass for a long long time.
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    Last edited by Armageddon; 03-23-2011 at 02:23 PM.

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    Unless you are getting the newest SSDs (and/or raid SSDs) there is no difference between SATA II and SATA III.
    Mechanical HDDs are running the same speed regardless of SATA II or SATA III interface, and are far from maxing the bandwidth of the SATA II specifications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle7D8 View Post
    GeForce GTX 570 1280MB what about that?
    or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB
    If you change the setup to the i5 2500 (k model if you want to overclock) then you should have money to upgrade to the GTX 560 Ti which is substantially faster, most tests have it about 75% faster than the GTX 550 model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle7D8 View Post
    CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-960 3.20 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366
    HDD: 1TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
    MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1600MHz Triple Channel Memory Module (Corsair or Major Brand)
    MOTHERBOARD: (3-Way SLI Support) MSI X58A-GD45 Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Triple-Channel DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Audio, eSATA, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III, RAID, IEEE1394a, 3 Gen2 PCIe, 3 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI (All Venom OC Certified)
    SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
    VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+84] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
    Its not over kill.. it will run it very well. You can run it on probably full setting and on 8 draw quality at 60 frames if in fact you are talking about the GTX 560 ti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armageddon View Post
    nice rigs more then yes. you overkill it.
    but 2 things.
    Get a SATA III Hard Drive. SATA II will slow you down and they are the same price.
    Dont forget also to have a 64Bit OS. 1. you'll be able to use your 6 gigs of ram. second its simply faster.

    Also if its only for gaming, you paying for a I7 for nothing. I5 is more then enough by far.
    but if you intend of doing any rendering, run a DB then I7 it is.

    PS. dont pay more for a GPU. when time come to upgrade. just buy a second one and put it in SLI.
    by that time they will cost nothing and you'll kick ass for a long long time.
    Nah dont listen to this... get the absolute best card you can buy right now. Then later when it comes times to buy one buy a cheap one of the same and crossfire or in your case sli

    Also you wont really see much of a difference at alll between sata2 sata3 not using an SSD so sata2 is fine just get a decent speed at least 7200, or if you have the money get a raptor.

    PLEASE READ THIS REVIEW BEFORE YOU GET THAT CARD YOU WILL BE SORRY>>>
    It is a very very poor card it seems
    I hope to god you read this before you buy anything because that 550 is terrible.

    http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...-review-6.html
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    Last edited by Point_Zero; 03-24-2011 at 09:52 AM.

  10. #20
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    yay getting my new comp in 2 days. finally decided on.
    Intel Core i7 PC
    Gigabyte X58A-UD3R Motherboard
    Intel Core i7 960 3.2 Ghz
    1000 GB HDD
    LG DVDRW
    InWin 589T Case
    6 GB DDR III 1333 RAM
    GeForce GTX 560 1 GB

    Add OS (Win 7 Home Premium 64bit)
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