Was anyone else disappointed by this raid tier?

[Vahlnir]

Eh, not really. So far I've enjoyed most of Eden, but I hate E7 with a burning passion.

[Mansion]

I mean, if the fights were exactly the same I'd agree with you, but even the models are different.

While not exactly different, there are obvious similarities that can feel lazy for some people (I personally do). I don't think most fights really stand alone as "Eden brand new fights" rather than "this ARR primal with a twist". They can change the models and remix the music, I understand some people can feel it's kind of uninspired.

And then there's the Eden storyline which I forgot to mention in my previous post... eh.

[Roda]

While not exactly different, there are obvious similarities that can feel lazy for some people (I personally do). I don't think most fights really stand alone as "Eden brand new fights" rather than "this ARR primal with a twist". They can change the models and remix the music, I understand some people can feel it's kind of uninspired.

And then there's the Eden storyline which I forgot to mention in my previous post... eh.

They kinda wrote themselves into a corner with the primals.
Imo, we should've been summoning the twelve since they also have dominion over the elements.

[Tsumdere]

E5 : I dislike this fight. I like the music and the boss design, I just find the mechanics boring. Progging in pugs was also rough considering it was the first fight in the tier and people were smashing their face against Furies 14 which is pretty early in the fight in almost every party.

E6 : Definitely my second favorite fight. The music is nothing to write home about, but it was fun to prog. I do think it's a little on the easy side with nothing unique that stands out. Also Ifrit hot.

E7 : Boring. Reused music, "interesting" boss design (I cannot even say uninspired because I guess a ball of birds is cool), and super easy mechanics once you understand the galaxy brain colors. Not a huge fan of the teleport mechanic because depending on which direction you get, can completely stop your rotation while you make sure you don't yeet yourself off the edge.

E8 : Love the boss design, love the music, love the arena. Outside of Light's Rampant, the fight is fun. You're always progging something new and she never repeats the same mechanic twice. Light's Rampant sucks though. It's a mechanic that needs more clarity upon wipes because it's difficult to determine what the hell happened if you wipe - everything looks and sounds the same. Was it chains or orbs? Which orb? Which 3 didn't stand in the middle? We will never know. As for the story... mmmmm mixed feelings. I understand that ultimately this tier was about Ryne growing up and becoming an independent woman, but I feel like the stakes were a *little* too high considering if we failed... well... The outfits did not bother me either as I viewed them as angelic rather than tantalizing because Ryne is a child, but it was definitely a choice since some people go ungabunga if they see female skin regardless of age.

E8: I'm a simple man, I see naked girl, I'm good with everything else even after wiped from LR hundreds of times...

Like this. She's a kid dude.

[Vahlnir]

Like this. She's a kid dude.

Yeah. The entity she is currently channeling might be ageless (or just very old period) but that's still Ryne underneath it all. So to me, thinking of her in that way like some apparently do is just plain wrong on so many levels.

[Valic]

I'm pretty sure the redress mechanic is supposed to be a symbolism between Shiva's weapon swapping mechanic back in ARR and the idea of light + purity type deal... She is indeed a child and it always weirds me out when someone brings that up but at the same time JP developers make children look like they're adults and vice versa too often so.... Doesn't surprise me people still do this. Same on the matter of lalafells these days... it's cute to see storylines in the game of romances and junk but when you talk about attraction to these things..... why?

All of that is off topic anyways... Really I think they could've done a LOT more creative concepts with E8s and everything else this tier tbh. That was why I liked E3 and E4 so much. Leviathan having 2 heads was neat, I can see how we thought of it too... Titan having a car.... I'm still on the fence about how we thought of that but it ended up being fun/unique/creative.

[Mavrias]

Why are you excluding 24 man roulette?

24 mans aren't part of the raid tier.