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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destati View Post
    Usually when people talk about raid tiers they refer to the 8-man raid series, which release on different patches than the 24-man alliance raids.
    Hes just a forum troll, pay him no mind. His main has ultimate clears, and this is like his 3rd account on here. the other 2 have been banned.
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    Aoki Kha
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Ramuh's music was great, Ifrit's design should have been more beastly, E7 gives me Spirited Away vibes with its paper birds and the teleportation mechanic stresses me out.

    As for E8...

    Ryne was on thin ice for me (no pun intended I swear) this whole expansion due to her connection with Minfillia, but with E8 I pretty much lost what little tolerance I had for her. She shoehorned herself into a fight that could have had a huge emotional impact given the WoL's connection to Shiva but thanks to her meddling the encounter is irritating at best. The mechanics in which she removes/changes her clothes make me deeply uncomfortable given her age and I am not a fan of Hraesvelgr's implementation.
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    It didn't bother me at first, since I thought it was a cool premise to see the Primal fights envisioned differently. Though when it was announced that we're also due to get an 'Unreal' mode for older Primal fights, I already feel the burnout approaching. Especially since the first Unreal fight is against Shiva, who we already fought as part of this raid tier.
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    Venan Rehw-dvre
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It didn't bother me at first, since I thought it was a cool premise to see the Primal fights envisioned differently. Though when it was announced that we're also due to get an 'Unreal' mode for older Primal fights, I already feel the burnout approaching. Especially since the first Unreal fight is against Shiva, who we already fought as part of this raid tier.
    God I hadn't even thought about that.... Yeah I'm sure that wont get stale quick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    I didn't hate it all that much, save for the server tick issues on Shiva and the BLUE ON BLUE ON WHITE ON OH LOOK, MORE BLUE. Progging Shiva was absolutely draining due to the sheer eye strain.

    Tbh, yeah... it could've been worse though I figure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Destati View Post
    *snip*
    That tidbit on Ryne..... good lordy she's starting to become the original Minfillia again huh? Just another character who's setting herself up for trouble "because lol".
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    Last edited by Valic; 07-14-2020 at 12:59 PM.

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    I didn't hate it all that much, save for the server tick issues on Shiva and the BLUE ON BLUE ON WHITE ON OH LOOK, MORE BLUE. Progging Shiva was absolutely draining due to the sheer eye strain.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    I didn't hate it all that much, save for the server tick issues on Shiva and the BLUE ON BLUE ON WHITE ON OH LOOK, MORE BLUE. Progging Shiva was absolutely draining due to the sheer eye strain.
    server tick issues? I think Shiva was honestly the easiest fight in terms of when abilities go off. The cast bar reigns supreme in that fight. Whereas, in E5S, sometimes the cast bar is accurate, and sometimes it isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    server tick issues? I think Shiva was honestly the easiest fight in terms of when abilities go off. The cast bar reigns supreme in that fight. Whereas, in E5S, sometimes the cast bar is accurate, and sometimes it isn't.
    There were a couple times with my group where everyone would hit their knockback immunity at the same time while watching the cast bars, trying out the mirror uptime strat, and some people would still get flung off the edge on the second burst. That was the only real 'major' issue but it was consistent enough to be a hassle. Not in any way gamebreaking so much as it was mildly irritating.
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    Aoi Xenon
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    E5: Boss design is alright for me, feels like Odin design based from mythology or other games, with thunder spears etc. Knock-back distance was bit hard to get in the beginning when group stacks. Seeing some familiar skills from old fight and powered up was fun.

    E6: Was a-bit disappoint in music, wished could have some vocals. And mechanics' visibility was really bad, hope dev team can improve on this in future raids. Boss design is kinda new if you don't do ultimate fights since it can merge. Conflag Strike was cool, but only used once in entire fight expect enrage.

    E7: Mechanics was fun to learn, that tornado in last phase looks good, I was like "oh, this is why they wants to force update to 64-bit system."

    E8:
    I'm a simple man, I see naked girl, I'm good with everything else even after wiped from LR hundreds of times...


    Factory: As a Nier fan, song of ancients begins, 10/10 already, not even to mention the BGM in last boss. If story could have voice cast as Ivalice...only in dreams.
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    server tick issues? I think Shiva was honestly the easiest fight in terms of when abilities go off. The cast bar reigns supreme in that fight. Whereas, in E5S, sometimes the cast bar is accurate, and sometimes it isn't.
    Our static has definitely been seeing server tick issues in LR with balls straight up teleporting around and not being where their graphic is. The mechanic is really cool on paper, but it feels like the game can't handle it atm.

    Quote Originally Posted by xenowind View Post
    E8:
    I'm a simple man, I see naked girl, I'm good with everything else even after wiped from LR hundreds of times...
    Ew. Emphasis on "girl". She's a child.
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    E5 : I dislike this fight. I like the music and the boss design, I just find the mechanics boring. Progging in pugs was also rough considering it was the first fight in the tier and people were smashing their face against Furies 14 which is pretty early in the fight in almost every party.

    E6 : Definitely my second favorite fight. The music is nothing to write home about, but it was fun to prog. I do think it's a little on the easy side with nothing unique that stands out. Also Ifrit hot.

    E7 : Boring. Reused music, "interesting" boss design (I cannot even say uninspired because I guess a ball of birds is cool), and super easy mechanics once you understand the galaxy brain colors. Not a huge fan of the teleport mechanic because depending on which direction you get, can completely stop your rotation while you make sure you don't yeet yourself off the edge.

    E8 : Love the boss design, love the music, love the arena. Outside of Light's Rampant, the fight is fun. You're always progging something new and she never repeats the same mechanic twice. Light's Rampant sucks though. It's a mechanic that needs more clarity upon wipes because it's difficult to determine what the hell happened if you wipe - everything looks and sounds the same. Was it chains or orbs? Which orb? Which 3 didn't stand in the middle? We will never know. As for the story... mmmmm mixed feelings. I understand that ultimately this tier was about Ryne growing up and becoming an independent woman, but I feel like the stakes were a *little* too high considering if we failed... well... The outfits did not bother me either as I viewed them as angelic rather than tantalizing because Ryne is a child, but it was definitely a choice since some people go ungabunga if they see female skin regardless of age.

    Quote Originally Posted by xenowind View Post

    E8: I'm a simple man, I see naked girl, I'm good with everything else even after wiped from LR hundreds of times...
    Like this. She's a kid dude.
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