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    LL impressions pre-patchnotes: healers still garbo it seems

    while yoshi has said that more detail will be in the patch notes (obviously), the only healer changes noted were AST mp cost reductions (a certainly welcome change) and that aside from future MNK rework plans, class changes are going to be small this time around.

    So, more months of suffering ahead I guess.
    would certainly love to be proven wrong come patch notes day!
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiralMask View Post
    while yoshi has said that more detail will be in the patch notes (obviously), the only healer changes noted were AST mp cost reductions (a certainly welcome change) and that aside from future MNK rework plans, class changes are going to be small this time around.

    So, more months of suffering ahead I guess.
    would certainly love to be proven wrong come patch notes day!
    This is pretty expected. The level of changes people want (eg DPS rotation overhaul) typically only happen at expac time. So, sorry to be the bearer of bad news - but no, you shouldn't expect more from the actual patch notes.
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    The fact that they are changing Monk because they felt like waiting for the next expansion was "too much" while we healers have been claiming for reworks and changes for more than one year and yet we haven't recived any kind of feedback is something that I find outright insulting.

    The more time this expansion is around the more I think we're second (or even third) class players, healers are not a job to enjoy just a slot that needs to be filled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    I was hoping that after over a year now they would at least make notice of SCH pet issues. They've been dodging that topic so hard it's hard to even tell if it's on their radar at all.
    AST was also already the strongest healer of them all. I feel like either SE don't really know what's going on, or their idea of balance is actually balancing player adoption of jobs, not the actual jobs.

    I heard he mentioned something about a slight sleeve rework. At least that's a step in the good direction.
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    Just this once I'd love if SE did the Blizzard thing and smashed healers with a hammer and completely re-made them mid expansion. The MP cost to Gravity myself into the next dimension is still too damn high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    Just this once I'd love if SE did the Blizzard thing and smashed healers with a hammer and completely re-made them mid expansion. The MP cost to Gravity myself into the next dimension is still too damn high.
    Honestly, I'm glad they don't.

    Like I get a lot of people want more interesting DPS options etc, but the healers are very well balanced right now (hopefully the AST MP buff doesn't affect this much...). Taking such melodramatic actions would make things a lot worse, not better.
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    ^ well the translator did said that AST will get reduce mp cost on next patch (dont know which skill though, probably most of it?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Honestly, I'm glad they don't.

    Like I get a lot of people want more interesting DPS options etc, but the healers are very well balanced right now (hopefully the AST MP buff doesn't affect this much...). Taking such melodramatic actions would make things a lot worse, not better.
    To be completely and utterly frank with you, I could not physically manage to care less about balance right now. The healers are boring as sin, and that should take priority over a minor difference in performance. Balance is a pointless goal when it comes at the cost of the game actually being fun to play.

    Addendum: Apply this very same logic to the tanks, especially with how Warrior and DRK are basically the same class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    ^ well the translator did said that AST will get reduce mp cost on next patch (dont know which skill though, probably most of it?)
    Here's the full translator's text:

    【占星術師】ASTROLOGIAN
    ・MPのコスト軽減調整
    ・ライトスピードは高速詠唱のみに変更、MP回復効果は別スキルに移行
    ・スリーブドローの効果が改修

    - MP Cost will be reduced
    - Lightspeed will be adjusted to allow only 1.5 second recast, the MP regen effect will be moved to other skill
    - Sleeve Draw's effect will be adjusted
    We won't know more precise details till the patch notes come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    Just this once I'd love if SE did the Blizzard thing and smashed healers with a hammer and completely re-made them mid expansion.
    The Blizzard thing is to smash everything that worked well or was fun with a hammer...
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