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    LL impressions pre-patchnotes: healers still garbo it seems

    while yoshi has said that more detail will be in the patch notes (obviously), the only healer changes noted were AST mp cost reductions (a certainly welcome change) and that aside from future MNK rework plans, class changes are going to be small this time around.

    So, more months of suffering ahead I guess.
    would certainly love to be proven wrong come patch notes day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiralMask View Post
    while yoshi has said that more detail will be in the patch notes (obviously), the only healer changes noted were AST mp cost reductions (a certainly welcome change) and that aside from future MNK rework plans, class changes are going to be small this time around.

    So, more months of suffering ahead I guess.
    would certainly love to be proven wrong come patch notes day!
    This is pretty expected. The level of changes people want (eg DPS rotation overhaul) typically only happen at expac time. So, sorry to be the bearer of bad news - but no, you shouldn't expect more from the actual patch notes.
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    The fact that they are changing Monk because they felt like waiting for the next expansion was "too much" while we healers have been claiming for reworks and changes for more than one year and yet we haven't recived any kind of feedback is something that I find outright insulting.

    The more time this expansion is around the more I think we're second (or even third) class players, healers are not a job to enjoy just a slot that needs to be filled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
    The fact that they are changing Monk because they felt like waiting for the next expansion was "too much" while we healers have been claiming for reworks and changes for more than one year and yet we haven't recived any kind of feedback is something that I find outright insulting.
    You do realize they've been telling monks to "wait for the next expansion" since Heavensward, right? You realize Monks have been asking for changes and reworks for the better half of a decade, right? You thinking the lack of feedback with regards to healers, is in anyway comparable to how the devs have treated monk is laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramura_Sono View Post
    You do realize they've been telling monks to "wait for the next expansion" since Heavensward, right? You realize Monks have been asking for changes and reworks for the better half of a decade, right? You thinking the lack of feedback with regards to healers, is in anyway comparable to how the devs have treated monk is laughable.
    The big difference there is the feedback, devs told the monks that at least they knew the problems there were, we've seen zero feedback from the devs since the start of the expansion, they've been talking about 2B's butt more time than about the healers in the last 3 live letters and on top of that healer design right now I'd say is the worst design I've ever seen in any game ever, at least monks got to be rewarded by good execution in all their iterations clunkier or not, healer's reward is having a more boring job most of the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
    The big difference there is the feedback, devs told the monks that at least they knew the problems there were, we've seen zero feedback from the devs since the start of the expansion, they've been talking about 2B's butt more time than about the healers in the last 3 live letters and on top of that healer design right now I'd say is the worst design I've ever seen in any game ever, at least monks got to be rewarded by good execution in all their iterations clunkier or not, healer's reward is having a more boring job most of the time
    I would add that Tanks are in a similar situation as healers right now, not only with the simplification of gameplay kits, but with the lack of meaningful dev feedback. the only thing saving tanks from being as boring as healers is that we have a gimped dps rotation instead of just 2 buttons. either way, the lack of communication from devs for both playerbases is disturbing, and is not helped by the content drought. Even a simple "we hear you, please wait while we think" would ease much of the worries of both healer and tank communities.

    If this accessibility and lack of communication continues past 6.0, I know for a fact that irreparable damage will be dealt. just look at what happened to WoW, and now FFXIV is in the early stages of such changes.
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    I was hoping that after over a year now they would at least make notice of SCH pet issues. They've been dodging that topic so hard it's hard to even tell if it's on their radar at all.
    AST was also already the strongest healer of them all. I feel like either SE don't really know what's going on, or their idea of balance is actually balancing player adoption of jobs, not the actual jobs.

    I heard he mentioned something about a slight sleeve rework. At least that's a step in the good direction.
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    Just this once I'd love if SE did the Blizzard thing and smashed healers with a hammer and completely re-made them mid expansion. The MP cost to Gravity myself into the next dimension is still too damn high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    Just this once I'd love if SE did the Blizzard thing and smashed healers with a hammer and completely re-made them mid expansion. The MP cost to Gravity myself into the next dimension is still too damn high.
    Honestly, I'm glad they don't.

    Like I get a lot of people want more interesting DPS options etc, but the healers are very well balanced right now (hopefully the AST MP buff doesn't affect this much...). Taking such melodramatic actions would make things a lot worse, not better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Honestly, I'm glad they don't.

    Like I get a lot of people want more interesting DPS options etc, but the healers are very well balanced right now (hopefully the AST MP buff doesn't affect this much...). Taking such melodramatic actions would make things a lot worse, not better.
    To be completely and utterly frank with you, I could not physically manage to care less about balance right now. The healers are boring as sin, and that should take priority over a minor difference in performance. Balance is a pointless goal when it comes at the cost of the game actually being fun to play.

    Addendum: Apply this very same logic to the tanks, especially with how Warrior and DRK are basically the same class.
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