Next healer class released should be

[MirronTulaxia]

Unless they take pretty significant liberties, Geomancer will make for a relatively boring healer, I feel. It's just too similar to what we already have. One of the main reasons I'd love to see Chemist is because it'd be the first healer not using magic for its abilities. While the overall gameplay won't differ too greatly, it still allows for some rather unique aesthetic.

Except Healers are all part of the DoM. So it’s going to be that as well. They could make it a TA style Chemist I suppose. Robes and a mace.

[Amnmaat]

Except Healers are all part of the DoM. So it’s going to be that as well. They could make it a TA style Chemist I suppose. Robes and a mace.

Great point about DoM. However we want to spin it chemistry is not magic; chemistry would fall under the DoW category. Garleans use chemistry to create monstrosities, and we know Garleans can't control aether.

[MirronTulaxia]

Reducing Geomancer to a single nuke, a dot and an aoe would be such a disservice to the class. Where the amount of things they could do with a chemist/medic theme would be fantastic.

Eh, you’re doing a disservice by trying to say it should be Black Mage with different elements. It’s not known for tossing out Tornado, Flood, and Quake. It’s got a lot of directions it can go but big AoE direct damage really isn’t the one it should be. In terms of possible designs it definitely has room for healing or casting, but the style you advocate for the latter isn’t fitting.

Great point about DoM. However we want to spin it chemistry is not magic; chemistry would fall under the DoW category. Garleans use chemistry to create monstrosities, and we know Garleans can't control aether.

Eh, wasn’t quite the direction I meant. I just meant if we get a Chemist it’ll be... well, a mage. In robes with a mace, not tights and a gun. Maybe it’ll get a jacket and shorts like Scholar. But it’ll still be the same basic build. It’ll have spell speed, it’ll cast spells, it’ll use MP, so on and so forth.

[Amnmaat]

Eh, you’re doing a disservice by trying to say it should be Black Mage with different elements. It’s not known for tossing out Tornado, Flood, and Quake. It’s got a lot of directions it can go but big AoE direct damage really isn’t the one it should be. In terms of possible designs it definitely has room for healing or casting, but the style you advocate for the latter isn’t fitting.



Eh, wasn’t quite the direction I meant. I just meant if we get a Chemist it’ll be... well, a mage. In robes with a mace, not tights and a gun. Maybe it’ll get a jacket and shorts like Scholar. But it’ll still be the same basic build. It’ll have spell speed, it’ll cast spells, it’ll use MP, so on and so forth.

Your approach is strictly gameplay based
But you can't make FFXIV jobs without lore, how would you pass a chemist as a DoM job from Garlemald by Garleans (who don't use magic)?
If Chemist gets added it'll have to be a DoW. I don't see how they can get around the lore.

[MirronTulaxia]

Oh. I wouldn’t tie it to the Garleans. That just seems like something random people are latching on to. Allagans, Thavinair, Sharlaya. All possible answers, and others exist too.

[BasicBlake]

Mirron, me saying the class is going to focus on Water and Aero isn’t me doing a disservice to the class. It’s me being able to read. The game tells us they focus on it, Kyo’s title is literally “of the wind and water”, he opened a school for it.

While yes I would love ‘Nado and Flood, I have never said that is the end all be all. I like clockwork say I think it will focus on certain elements. Opposed to the people on here who think it will either be Whm2 or somehow using every element and weather effect plus ground markers, giving the most intricate gameplay an mmo has ever seen.

While yes, Yoshi P and the team could do anything with it. I don’t think they are going to stray THAT far from the lore book, the in game lore, a dungeon, a trial and other quests saying that the class in focused on certain things.

[BasicBlake]

In regards to the people arguing against a Garlean themed job based off of things like Aether manipulation and DoM vs DoW, you can get around this with the basic story. Only pureblood Garleans cannot manipulate Aether, and their army is well.... not a bunch of pure blooded Garleans. It’s comprised of a bunch of races/people that have been conquered and subjugated. Who are more than capable of doing anything anyone else can.

Hence how Bajsaljen is a medic, and that probably involves not only healing with items but through Aether manipulation. Wearing robes and being a DoM doesn’t have anything to do with a chemist being put in the game. And robes as a deterrent from something being a healer is... well.

[Amnmaat]

In regards to the people arguing against a Garlean themed job based off of things like Aether manipulation and DoM vs DoW, you can get around this with the basic story. Only pureblood Garleans cannot manipulate Aether, and their army is well.... not a bunch of pure blooded Garleans. It’s comprised of a bunch of races/people that have been conquered and subjugated. Who are more than capable of doing anything anyone else can.

Hence how Bajsaljen is a medic, and that probably involves not only healing with items but through Aether manipulation. Wearing robes and being a DoM doesn’t have anything to do with a chemist being put in the game. And robes as a deterrent from something being a healer is... well.

Eh, from what I gather Garlemald the country, not the colonies are of pureblood Garleans only. What's the purpose of a Garlemald themed expansion when the job is by some random race that isn't Garlean? It's like being taught the ninja job by a lalafel that lives in Ishgard.

[RyuDragnier]

Eh, from what I gather Garlemald the country, not the colonies are of pureblood Garleans only. What's the purpose of a Garlemald themed expansion when the job is by some random race that isn't Garlean? It's like being taught the ninja job by a lalafel that lives in Ishgard.

Then we take the Magitek easy way out. Chemists use a device on them that was created by the Garleans to manually drain and control aether from their own bodies, which is used to create their potions.

[BasicBlake]

Eh, from what I gather Garlemald the country, not the colonies are of pureblood Garleans only. What's the purpose of a Garlemald themed expansion when the job is by some random race that isn't Garlean? It's like being taught the ninja job by a lalafel that lives in Ishgard.

A class started in Garlemald but adapted for the warfront for people who can manipulate aether? It’s not like a class was started and then didn’t evolve ever, especially when the whole theme of Garlemald is “adapt and overcome”.

Being taught ninja from a lalafell in Ishgard is not the same as being taught how to “Medic” from a high performing medic who defected from the Garlean army.

From a story standpoint that works fantastically, using their own class against them.