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    Can we please remove old content that no one does anymore for more dev time?

    There are a total of 192 duties now when you open Duty Finder, and most people don't do a lot of those content anymore. For example, not a lot of people do guildhests anymore. 99% of players have never beaten Solemn Trinity, for a good reason. Newer content is more enjoyable and interesting and old content like guildhests seem boring in comparison. I think the devs should have the courage to simply delete some of these old content so they have more time to develop new content. If they deleted guildhests we would probably be able to get one more Bozja Citadel step, and I think most people would prefer the latter.
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    You do realize that deleting content which already exists doesn't turn back the clock, or otherwise enhance their ability to develop things quickly?

    If anything, making them go back and remove things form the game would only take away dev time.
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    I know this is a troll topic and removing content is stupid but...

    Something has to be done. The roulettes are not enough anymore to fill the queues. We have too much content and there are not enough people in the roulettes to fill all those 8-man trials and 24 man raids. The roulettes worked in ARR and HW, but nowadays you have to wait for hours to progress through the stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    I know this is a troll topic and removing content is stupid but...

    Something has to be done. The roulettes are not enough anymore to fill the queues. We have too much content and there are not enough people in the roulettes to fill all those 8-man trials and 24 man raids. The roulettes worked in ARR and HW, but nowadays you have to wait for hours to progress through the stuff.
    Yea and this is a troll response in a troll topic. I have never waited the times you suggest for anything in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Yea and this is a troll response in a troll topic. I have never waited the times you suggest for anything in this game.
    I have an AUS friend who regularly encountered 1.5 hour queue times while trying to progress through Omega normal. I once waited 2.5 hours to get into one of the stormblood Alliance Raids. Even during off-peak hours, that's pretty excessive.

    This issue seems to unsurprisingly affect ilevel-cheese prone duties like Normal Raids and Alliance Raids the most, so fixing that may be a reasonable place to start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    I have an AUS friend who regularly encountered 1.5 hour queue times while trying to progress through Omega normal. I once waited 2.5 hours to get into one of the stormblood Alliance Raids. Even during off-peak hours, that's pretty excessive.

    This issue seems to unsurprisingly affect ilevel-cheese prone duties like Normal Raids and Alliance Raids the most, so fixing that may be a reasonable place to start.
    99% chance they are on one of the Japanese data centres but didn't have their duty finder set to include Japanese. The queue times are awful if you're waiting on, ultimately, two eligible tanks and two healers from a minority language to be in the roulette at the same time.

    Levelling roulette ignores language settings, but everything else follows it.

    The worst queue I have ever encountered (outside of misguided attempts to queue for EX trials) was a 40-minute wait to get into Orbonne when it wasn't current, and that's because my first queue came up unexpectedly quickly so I missed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    99% chance they are on one of the Japanese data centres but didn't have their duty finder set to include Japanese. The queue times are awful if you're waiting on, ultimately, two eligible tanks and two healers from a minority language to be in the roulette at the same time.
    They play on NA during offpeak hours, so I guess it's the 1%. Roulette's themselves aren't generally a problem, it's content in exploitable roulette's that rely on roulette groups to fill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    99% chance they are on one of the Japanese data centres but didn't have their duty finder set to include Japanese. The queue times are awful if you're waiting on, ultimately, two eligible tanks and two healers from a minority language to be in the roulette at the same time.

    Levelling roulette ignores language settings, but everything else follows it.

    The worst queue I have ever encountered (outside of misguided attempts to queue for EX trials) was a 40-minute wait to get into Orbonne when it wasn't current, and that's because my first queue came up unexpectedly quickly so I missed it.
    I have waited (not actively, like doing things irl in range to hear the queue pop) more than an hour and a half to try to complete Ridorana and Rabanastre on my alt once I knew they would be necessary for the ShB relic. I play on NA and have just English enabled.

    These queue times happen and it is due to ilvl cheese. It needs to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    99% chance they are on one of the Japanese data centres but didn't have their duty finder set to include Japanese.
    This should no longer work? i though after a 10 min or smt the languages are ignored.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    I have an AUS friend who regularly encountered 1.5 hour queue times while trying to progress through Omega normal. I once waited 2.5 hours to get into one of the stormblood Alliance Raids. Even during off-peak hours, that's pretty excessive.

    This issue seems to unsurprisingly affect ilevel-cheese prone duties like Normal Raids and Alliance Raids the most, so fixing that may be a reasonable place to start.
    Yes i had the same issue with friends on shiva, during any time that isnt 17:00-18:00.

    Honestly if its too much work or they simply dont want to, to not upset ppl, then pls, just give us a roulett for each of the raids...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    I have an AUS friend who regularly encountered 1.5 hour queue times while trying to progress through Omega normal. I once waited 2.5 hours to get into one of the stormblood Alliance Raids. Even during off-peak hours, that's pretty excessive.

    This issue seems to unsurprisingly affect ilevel-cheese prone duties like Normal Raids and Alliance Raids the most, so fixing that may be a reasonable place to start.
    Lower ilvl sync on the old ARR 24 mans would be a start. Labrynth of the Ancients syncing down to 110/120 when the it should be ~ ilvl 60 (maybe 90 max) or so.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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