Midway through Shadowbringers, and Eureka is still in dire need of improvements

[Puremallace]

Yeah. I didn't really like it overall but...I'm certainly not going to try to speak for everyone, nor should they (or anyone really). Some like it, some don't. Such is life.

Now I have said this is one guys opinion. It is a grindfest with heavy penalties for dying. Some people consider that the pinnacle of MMO design and I tend to disagree with that idea. It is just content not designed for my personal taste that is fine as long as it stays isolated to Eureka.

[Deceptus]

Now I have said this is one guys opinion. It is a grindfest with heavy penalties for dying. Some people consider that the pinnacle of MMO design and I tend to disagree with that idea. It is just content not designed for my personal taste that is fine as long as it stays isolated to Eureka.

There's a reason those types of MMOs aren't around anymore (penalties for dying). It's not fun gameplay.

De-leveling was NEVER fun in FFXI and it wasn't fun in Eureka.

[Lersayil]

I mean, no one forces you to get or use the fully completed weapons; I got Xiphias specifically because I liked the model and didn't bother upgrading it beyond that because I like it as is. It's the only reason why I ever stepped foot in Eureka (except to go back after to get the Tyrannosaur mount ). I think it's important to look at Relic weapons as committing time to get something you like, not wasting time getting something you don't like because you feel like you have to.

True, but that's ignoring the fact that when the content was fresh, we had no idea if we'll like the end result. You either placed your bets at Anemos and grinded your chosen relics to Pyros before deciding, or you made a decision each area risking not having an up-to-date relic, having to go back to older areas hoping its active enough.

I took the former path and kept 3 relics up to date. Doing the Hydatos step was little more than a victory lap at that point, so I finished them, even though I only liked one model, and I'm not even using that anymore.

Anyways, that last part was just a quick quip that thankfully I'm not affected by Eurekas issues anymore. An... unforeseen positive side effect of not liking the relic models if you will.

[Hasrat]

Everyone complaining about the exp penalty (which is fair, it ought to be removed by now). But honestly, can't say I've heard anyone in the zones actually getting hit by it very often.

You have the first few levels in Anemos to learn what you can and can't solo. Due to echo, you really gotta be dipping into deep waters to get yourself killed. Learn what you can and can't handle.
Also learn quickly that players still die regardless. Often low levels hanging out with the train, or attempting to join up. This is where you learn that giving a shout usually gets someone to come along to pick you up. Most should also learn that parties are a good idea for similar reasons.

You usually don't see anyone running out the death timer unless they're way out of the way doing who knows what. In which case, that's kinda just a consequence to be prepared for. Maybe some players are trying to do stuff in a low-pop instance. Also something to be mindful of. (also something to demand improvements on)

May be biased, but I wouldn't say losing exp is as widespread as detractors might make it seem.

[FF16Necromancer]

Everybody hates Eureka, [...]

All they need to do is boost crystal rate by like 5 times in Hydatos.

[Kaliesto]

I didn't enjoy Eureka until Pyros and Hydatos which were better.

Pagos was a nightmare.