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    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Father Gascoigne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkobra View Post
    Which one is it? Would it not hold up in trial and you'd win or would you not win?

    There's no real reason to continue this as a chain of discussion with you. I'm the one that "took that law class" and got my degree in music, contracts and legal paraphrasing to protect my self-employment. You just keep spewing what you Googled once upon a time. Bet you're one of those people that shout "Freedom of Speech" at everything.

    Now, I know you've not taken any classes. I know you don't have a further education. You don't cite sources and you create strawman fallacies to enforce YOUR point. But your opinion isn't fact. It's not law. I also find it amusing that you're arguing with someone that spent four years studying this but you Googled it one time. You have to know how this is going to go for you.

    If you got a problem with the ToS, stop playing the game and take it to court. We'll see which one of us is right. The fact that you won't means you know the answer to that already.
    It wouldn't hold up in trial; but they wouldn't need it to win. Honestly, they wouldn't be stupid enough to even use the ToS at trial over something like that; they can draw out the litigation process and bankrupt me without it. That doesn't mean what they did is legal, it just means the law doesn't matter if you're rich.

    Again, you claim to have a degree but offer literally nothing in the way of insight on how a ToS works. You just posture and bluff and say "I have a degree." Make an argument. Explain to all of us how clicking agree means you forfeit your consumer rights. I'd love to hear it.
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    Ceridwenae's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    It wouldn't hold up in trial; but they wouldn't need it to win. Honestly, they wouldn't be stupid enough to even use the ToS at trial over something like that; they can draw out the litigation process and bankrupt me without it. That doesn't mean what they did is legal, it just means the law doesn't matter if you're rich.

    Again, you claim to have a degree but offer literally nothing in the way of insight on how a ToS works. You just posture and bluff and say "I have a degree." Make an argument. Explain to all of us how clicking agree means you forfeit your consumer rights. I'd love to hear it.
    The ToS explicitly says your consumer rights are not forfeit even if they ban you for breaking the terms. So you can do something about it, if you felt you were unfairly banned. So... yeah. They can ban you if they think you've screwed over your agreement with them and in return, if you felt they'd screwed you over by banning you, you're not without recourse. This circular argument carrying on is technically already detailed in the ToS already.

    So, if they ban you without reason, you'd have to be spectacularly unlucky. Not to say it doesn't happen, but it doesn't violate your consumer rights if they do so. You still have those, which is how you can challenge a ban. So let's hop off this, and move on to the real issue.
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