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    They're not denying you access for no reason, though. Their reason is that they banned you, which they do notify you when that happens. They don't need more of a reason than that.

    A breach of contract would be a case where you can't log in, are given no reason why you can't log in, are unable to get any sort of reason from SE when you try to contact them, and yet they continue to charge you. Even then, good luck getting any kind of legal action taken against them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    They're not denying you access for no reason, though. Their reason is that they banned you, which they do notify you when that happens. They don't need more of a reason than that.

    A breach of contract would be a case where you can't log in, are given no reason why you can't log in, are unable to get any sort of reason from SE when you try to contact them, and yet they continue to charge you. Even then, good luck getting any kind of legal action taken against them.
    Banning is just the act of denying access; it's not the reason. Banning you for no reason is what would be illegal, regardless of what's stated in the ToS. Hiding consumer rights violations in contract terms doesn't exempt you from them.

    The fact that I can't promise a service, take your money, and then simply not perform that service is one of the most basic ones. I'd need a legitimate reason to abandon the arrangement and still keep your money, and me sneaking the words "I can steal from you" onto the contract you signed wouldn't hold up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I mean sure in theory you could sue them, and let us say you happen to have a case and can prove they broke the ToS.

    What would be the point? Unless you have an endless supply of time and money do not see one coming out ahead in this lawsuit.

    Cause only way i see one winning is if one could prove that they were falsely banned. Which would be hard to prove especially if the info regarding the ban is vague. Probably nof even worth time and effoet required.
    This is a different issue, but I agree for an individual it would be pointless. If you don't have the money and legal resources to fight a million dollar corporation it doesn't matter how right you are.

    If SE were stupid enough to start mass banning bots with zero evidence or due diligence, however, they could end up involved in a class action lawsuit involving thousands of players.
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    Last edited by Goji1639; 07-11-2020 at 07:57 AM.