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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    That precedent you quoted is completely irrelevant to this discussion... I'm not saying a ToS can't be held as valid; I'm saying it can't violate consumer rights.

    Also, that example I gave was just an absurdist comment. Slavery is something that can't be stipulated in a contract period, because it's illegal. "You sign a contract you agree to it," isn't valid if what's being asked of you or what's being done to you isn't legal. That's a basic tenet of contract law.
    Which specific consumer rights are it violating, if you don't mind? With citations to consumer laws and legal precedents, please.

    ETA: The precedent I quoted is actually completely relevant to this discussion, as it was quoted in a court case (Bragg v Linden Research, Inc.) held over termination of an account over TOS violations (specifically "exploiting" the game) in which the court mused that, had the defendant had adequate competition in the market (and terms of account termination been more openly displayed, as it is in the FFXIV user agreement - right at the very top of the agreement), the adhesive contract would have been held valid and the court would have ruled in favour of the defendant. That case is likely why the FFXIV user agreement has those terms displayed so openly, in fact.
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    Last edited by TitaniumVulpes; 07-11-2020 at 01:16 PM.