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    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I guess I'm not the only one here that doesn't understand contract law. It seems you and I are in the same boat.

    But you're just taking this around in circles and moving the goalpost, so if you could provide me with a written statement from someone at SE stating that they "know their ability to terminate your access to their service is restricted by contract law" and all that, that would be great. I'm just stating what's in the user agreement, but you seem to speak for SE themselves, so if this is a legal matter, why not back it up with a statement from them? Or do you not have access to that? Then maybe you should leave the assumptions at home or maybe taking one more contract law class for good measure.

    There's nothing illegal about terminating your account if they feel like it. You agreed to allow them to do it. If it was illegal I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to put it in their user agreement, I would think. Weird that you play and sub to a game that breaks the law, though. Does that mean you're breaking the law by agreeing to it? I don't know, I'm not a lawyer like you.

    As for the slave labour thing, I read the agreement before signing. It's not that long. And if you have time to argue about this, you have time to read it too. I suggest you do.

    Back up your claims with real facts and not conjecture. My defence is the user agreement itself. All you have is opinions, it seems.
    SE isn't going to release a written statement that they're bound by contract law. All businesses are bound by contract law; it's common knowledge. These protections are exactly why you can't accidentally "sign" yourself into slavery, just because page 200 in a 500 page contract had a "slave" clause you missed.

    The problem is that you, and many others, don't actually understand how contracts work.

    I think the specific wording of the ToS is SE kind of taking advantage of that fact. It's amazing to me that you honestly believe SE can take your money for $100's in promissory digital services, and then just refuse you access to those services for absolutely no reason. I wonder how many people lost accounts for no reason, and didn't even bother to contest it because they thought clicking "agree" on something made stealing from them perfectly legal.
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    Last edited by Goji1639; 07-11-2020 at 05:44 AM.