Bot issues

[Kes13a]

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Just suspecting someone might be a bot because they undercut by a gil isn't worth reporting because it's not something only bots do. You'd need to have some fairly specific detail on what you personally observed that makes you believe it's a bot (such as witnessing the flying hack that the RMT farming bots were using at the start of the expansion).

Players can get in trouble for a false report but GMs aren't likely to do anything if your report appears to be getting made in good faith. They're going to punish the reporting players who are trying to make trouble for the other player because they didn't like something that was done (like undercut by 1 gil).

its not just the 1 gil undercutting, its the behaviour. cycling through multiple characters and changing prices on all minions faster than a human can, thats the observed behaviour. 1gil chippers are easily handled. but once you have them on 24/7 cycling using a predictable time interval, thats not a human. if it is a person doing it I can care less, they sleep, they eat, sometimes they even leave the house.. the bots.. do not.

[KageTokage]

Hoo boy.

Now the RMT spammers have returned to using their obnoxious tactic of begging for NN invites in horrible English, then spamming the chat once someone invites them.

I'd like to think it's a desperation tactic due to lack of sales, but unfortunately, some mentors are extremely dense and never seem to learn that genuinely new players pretty much never ask for NN invites due to generally being unaware that it even exists until the higher levels where it's mentioned by the Hall of the Novice NPCs.

[KageTokage]

They announced something during the live letter just now that warrants discussion, namely, the decision to expand both the free trial and starter edition to include all HW content.

This is great for everyone who's on the fence about the game, and liable to get many properly hooked when they have the ability to get into the better part of the game's story.

However, it's also opening countless new avenues of potential exploitation for the RMTers to take advantage of. The main thing I'm concerned about is them potentially settling on a MSQ-required dungeon as their new farming spot, as it's already a known issue that they can occasionally lock people out of Amdapor Keep and other instances at times by flooding the queues with their armies of bots.

I'm still hoping they decide to just axe the raw gil drops from dungeons to force the gil farmers out of instanced content in order to reduce the strain on the servers.

[Seddrinth]

I've roleplayed a bot just for fun, not harassing or bothering anyone else. A few times people started following me around and griefing me. I had to call the gm on them to stop harassing me.

[KageTokage]

I've roleplayed a bot just for fun, not harassing or bothering anyone else. A few times people started following me around and griefing me. I had to call the gm on them to stop harassing me.

I'm curious as to how you "roleplay" a bot aside from having a keyboard mash name and the most generic looking hyur/lala ever.

[LaughingBanana]

Today I learned that people actually use bots on their mentor roulette when doing dungeon contents with other people?

What the heck? If true, that is such a selfish thing to do.

[KageTokage]

Today I learned that people actually use bots on their mentor roulette when doing dungeon contents with other people?

What the heck? If true, that is such a selfish thing to do.

At this point, I'm convinced that if there's something that's perceived as tedious by any amount of people, there's probably a bot for it. FATEs, trusts, big fishing (The bots are able to know what the weather conditions are in every zone somehow and move accordingly; presumably due to the skywatcher data being stored client-side), gathering, crafting, Eureka, PvP, Gold Saucer; I've pretty much seen it all.

A mentor botting dungeons/trials really doesn't have anything to lose because if people catch on and kick them they're not going to be subjected to any kind of punishment.

It's indeed horribly selfish, but I think most people who use bots in general couldn't care less about what others think of them.

[Cheremia]

I once had a bot in Innocence normal. Was a warrior

Let me tell you, the botsystem they used was not able to manage that multi aoe. Always went to one spot on the exact same distance and either was lucky and didn't get hit because they got the safespot. Or they just got hit.

They also always ran up to him even through the get away thing. Me and my friend(both healers) actually tried or best to heal him. System is at least able to accept raises and talking to them obviously did nothing.

But just watching him move was very obviously not normal, especially for the dodging of that aoe(i forgot the name lol).

And i'm pretty sure i also had a bot once or twice in dungeons before.
Some people do weird stuff but bots are... a different kind of weird. One healer bot was stuck on a pillar in Toto-rak for a bit.

So ye, people definitely use bot programms in dungeons and trials and IF you have the time to watch them, you DO notice.

[KageTokage]

The bot AI at its base level is only programmed to deal with the basic circle/cone/line AoEs from what I've observed. Anything else they'll either just eat it and start freaking out and moving erratically.

They sometimes attempt to counteract that by following another player, which is how they're able to trust farm Holminster Switch and a few other dungeons because the Scions will almost always guide them to safety.

I regularly see an entire party of bots that collectively farms instances for phatasmagoria mats on my server, though, so it seems like there really isn't much of a limit on what they're capable of if someone is has the know-how to write custom scripts for them.