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  1. #11
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    HadesNight's Avatar
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    I'm actually really glad that you can't send tells during dungeons. I sincerely wonder why people get into public content with others and don't have the common courtesy to focus on that content for the 15-20 minutes you're occupied. Hopefully SE never changes this. I mean, we have linkshells that do this anyway so this feels like a non-issue for people invested in being a decent player in a dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HadesNight View Post
    I'm actually really glad that you can't send tells during dungeons. I sincerely wonder why people get into public content with others and don't have the common courtesy to focus on that content for the 15-20 minutes you're occupied. Hopefully SE never changes this. I mean, we have linkshells that do this anyway so this feels like a non-issue for people invested in being a decent player in a dungeon.
    What about every other instanced area like Diadem where you can't mess up, my comment isn't just regarded towards dungeons itself but it's a good place to start
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintessa View Post
    In the last 20 or so years, what's happened to people?
    It's just FF14 really.

    The game is rather strange in that the devs go out of their way to handhold and protect their playerbase from things that are perfectly fine in pretty much any other game and the playerbase defends it to the death. Mailing alts, whispering in dungeons, endgame parsers, PvP communication and so on. Nope, can't have that, it'd cause toxic behavior. We must have one of the most toxic communities of any game ever made if it needs to be kept in check so strictly.
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    It's just FF14 really.

    The game is rather strange in that the devs go out of their way to handhold and protect their playerbase from things that are perfectly fine in pretty much any other game and the playerbase defends it to the death. Mailing alts, whispering in dungeons, endgame parsers, PvP communication and so on. Nope, can't have that, it'd cause toxic behavior. We must have one of the most toxic communities of any game ever made if it needs to be kept in check so strictly.
    It's odd, though I suppose it's just an unfortunate reflection of society. Quite a lot of players in this game seem to operate with a massive chip on their shoulder to the point where they cannot handle differences in opinion or attitude. They've also learned how to 'weaponise' the report system, by making a huge fuss over things that could easily be resolved by just agreeing to disagree or making use of the mature language filter/block system.

    In my experience, the same players eager to report any and all slights against them are actually among the most spiteful, horrid players to interact with.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    It's just FF14 really.

    The game is rather strange in that the devs go out of their way to handhold and protect their playerbase from things that are perfectly fine in pretty much any other game and the playerbase defends it to the death. Mailing alts, whispering in dungeons, endgame parsers, PvP communication and so on. Nope, can't have that, it'd cause toxic behavior. We must have one of the most toxic communities of any game ever made if it needs to be kept in check so strictly.
    I think it's just silly how this is the only MMO I've every played where these systems even exist, and I can never get used to it no matter the circumstance there have been multiple times where I've been in an instanced room and it just locks you out, I can understand the logic behind not being too fond of parsing (coming from someone that really enjoys to min-max) but I can't wrap my head around locking out your character from basically everything in certain scenarios. If people genuinely don't like the system I think they just shouldn't use it instead of completely removing it, because I have seen a 50/50 response where people do and don't want it.
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    King Canadane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodenbucket View Post
    What about every other instanced area like Diadem where you can't mess up, my comment isn't just regarded towards dungeons itself but it's a good place to start
    You can send tells in The Diadem.
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    I've seen people say some pretty horrid things to people in more public chats, but sometimes they're met with people calling them out. I've also had people world visit to mine after a duty just to whisper me and say obscenities to me because I didn't perform to their standard or that I pointed out that they were griefing or AFKing for a free ride or something.

    Since it doesn't seem to be a technical thing, I'm sure SE has their reasons for not allowing it. Like others have said, it's possible to just use FC or linkshell chat. Or use an outside messaging system like Discord. And generally if what you want to say to someone could be perceived as too mean or something even if it's to help them, consider rephrasing it. Maybe adding a "please". Actually scratch that last part, people seem to get more mad if I say "please". Either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    You can send tells in The Diadem.
    you can't open your friends list/ fc up though so pretty much redundant
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    It's sort of strange to me that /tells are disabled in dungeons. The one time I actually tried to use one was to commend a healer for basically salvaging an absolutely terrible run in a way that wouldn't call the rest of the group out "publicly." But nope.
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  10. #20
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    Ash Primordial
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodenbucket View Post
    you can't open your friends list/ fc up though so pretty much redundant
    it is just within diadem and eureka even, and it is quite easy to find or see the people you wanna whisper too within diadem and eureka

    GM's btw can send you tells in dungeons. So it is not an entirely impossible system.

    I don't know if it's really an issue though, it doesn't have a huge impact on the gameplay if I can write in party alliance map or whisper chat.
    WoW has each of their racial capital trading channels combined to one global channel, it could be used for guild recruiting in ff14 for example, easy to turn off and on. The ability to see the level,job of the person who spoke, might be interesting too - as an optional feature.
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