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  1. #21
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    Archwizard's Avatar
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    Archwizard Drake
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    So, if you mean more persistent environmental effects, then as long as they either A) automatically center under your target as Slipstream does or B) automatically center under you as Doton does, the only major objection I can see is "what if the tank moves the boss." Otherwise though it shouldn't be much of an issue; just center under an enemy target for caster/ranged/healer offensive skills, under yourself as a melee/tank, or under an ally for healing/defensive/supportive skills. (Maybe even play around with things like casting a persisting AoE effect that follows a pet, or your target, like putting Spikes on a tank or making explosive DoTs.)

    Honestly, I macro abilities like Salted Earth or Earthly Star to behave like that anyway, and even did so with Freeze last expansion just for the tedium (although there's sadly no conditional for "target IF FRIENDLY" for effects like Asylum or Sacred Soil, so I do drop them in weird places under bosses on occasion). The time saved from not having to manually target makes up for the time lost to the macro itself.

    If you mean more effects where you actually have to target the ground though? That would be hell on controller players. Even as a mouse and keyboard player, I find the frequent inconvenience of manual targeting outweighs the rare "convenience" of precasting on a spot.
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    Last edited by Archwizard; 07-12-2020 at 08:57 AM.

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    Aeos Luxiar
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    For healers like soil, asylum, star, sure those are fine, cool mechanics.

    For dps purposes, no thanks. Good riddance shadowflare. Looking forward to salted earth being removed next expansion.
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  3. #23
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    AST will have "Undraw" removed and replaced with "Set" which allows you to place a drawn card face down on the field. It will then activate in 30 seconds or you can press "Set" again to use that card to affect all party members in range. Please look forward to it.
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  4. #24
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shahi View Post
    No. I don't need more spells that is almost impossible to use with controller.
    Ummmm....it was extremely easy to place aoes with a controller.

    But I'm good with no ground base aoes. Tanks don't like to stay in them
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  5. #25
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    AncientCrystal's Avatar
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    Dawn Solaris
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Ground targeted aoes are a pain in the ass. DRK's one should be taken out.
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  6. #26
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    Limonia's Avatar
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    Elrica Lavandula
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I would like to have more ground AoEs if they would work like this: if you have something targeted, the spell is automatically placed on the target; if you don't have anything targeted, you get the target circle to place it freely.
    Best if it were an optional feature, so that those who want to keep it like it's now can. But we wouldn't need the macros for it anymore, which would be a big plus to what we have now.
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    Noice Deeps
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    Shiva
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    And I want less ground targeting.

    Can we meet in the middle and keep it as it is?
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  8. #28
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    KaerisKlyne's Avatar
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    Hjarta I'kastala
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 90
    If they auto-place like Slipstream does centred on your target, sure. For healers, since there's only one each anyway, I'd be fine leaving them as-is or having them auto-place centred on the ally targeted.
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    Owa Owa
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Like others have said, smart targetting/casting would be amazing. It's not just for offensive casters too - salted earth, star and shukuchi are absolutely horrible because of trying to weave in double clicks.
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