I want more ground-targeting.

[Rosenstrauch]

Like, DRK's Salted Earth you could macro it to be centered on a target, but what if you're in a duty and need to drop it in the middle of a group of pulls, not on the boss?

You can macro it to drop on your location instead of your current target. Though that opens up the possibility of misclicking it and dropping the salt far away from the boss. Macroing it to target an enemy also runs into issues when that enemies is a boss like the Idol of Darkness—the boss's center is off-stage, and so the game thinks you're trying to place Salted Earth at an invalid location.

It's a really annoying ability, honestly.

[Miminming]

You can macro it to drop on your location instead of your current target. Though that opens up the possibility of misclicking it and dropping the salt far away from the boss. Macroing it to target an enemy also runs into issues when that enemies is a boss like the Idol of Darkness—the boss's center is off-stage, and so the game thinks you're trying to place Salted Earth at an invalid location.

It's a really annoying ability, honestly.

Can you macro it to yourself instead?

[Beddict]

You can macro it to drop on your location instead of your current target. Though that opens up the possibility of misclicking it and dropping the salt far away from the boss. Macroing it to target an enemy also runs into issues when that enemies is a boss like the Idol of Darkness—the boss's center is off-stage, and so the game thinks you're trying to place Salted Earth at an invalid location.

It's a really annoying ability, honestly.

The Idol of Darkness issue is actually why I swapped over to using a <me> macro for Salted Earth, stupid thing kept erroring out when I tried to use it in my standard double-weave opener. Sure, the macro had a fail-safe line that pulled up the ground targeting circle just in case, but it was such a colossal pain to try and drop the AoE while also working Plunge into the double-weave and it usually caused me to clip my GCD and lose a Blood Weapon. So yeah, swapped to <me>, works better I find. Not the best because there's the issue you mentioned of course, but here's hoping I never fat-finger and screw up.

[Rosenstrauch]

Can you macro it to yourself instead?

That's what I said, yeah. The macro would look something like this:

/merror off
/action "Salted Earth" <me>
/micon "Salted Earth"

This disables macro errors, so you won't get error messages spammed at you if you click the button multiple times. It then attempts to place Salted Earth directly at your own feet. This happens immediately upon clicking the button. Finally, the last line just changes the macro's icon to Salted Earth's.

As a warning: This macro will immediately attempt to drop Salted Earth at your feet, so if you push it while still locked into another animation then nothing will happen, and if you push it too late then you'll be locked into the animation for it and clip into your next global cooldown.

[Tint]

That's what I said, yeah. The macro would look something like this:

I just use /action "Salted Earth" <t>

And when I want to cast it on myself I just target myself with pressing down on the D-Pad.


And yes more ground targeting stuff would be awful on controller. Plus a job wich is based around such skills would have a lot of fun with bad tanks who pull the enemies out of their skills >.>

[ItMe]

And yes more ground targeting stuff would be awful on controller. Plus a job wich is based around such skills would have a lot of fun with bad tanks who pull the enemies out of their skills >.>

I feel this. Many people are predicting we'll get GEO in 6.0, but if it's as ground targeting focused as it was in FF11 I'll be giving it a hard pass

[Kleeya]

If it's like Doton, absolutely no problem.

"Oh, we have reached a wall ! Time to put Doton right on the big pack of mobs to do awesome damage !"

3 seconds later : "Uuuuuuuhhhhhh Mr Tank why are you pulling all the mobs out of my Doton aoe ? Whyyyyyyyyyy ?"

Gimme My Bishop turret back!

"Oh, we have reached a wall ! Time to put the Bishop Turret right on the big pack of mobs to do awesome damage !"

3 seconds later : "Uuuuuuuhhhhhh Mr Tank why are you pulling all the mobs out of my Bishop Turret aoe ? Whyyyyyyyyyy ?"



I am not sure we need more ground-targeting XD

[Hasrat]

I'm not even controller player, and I wouldn't enjoy it. But, I think I might be a little weird with how I've mapped the major part of my rotation (for most any job) to the NUM pad. So, usually have two hands on the keyboard during battle, making ground targets a challenge. Salted Earth was never much of a problem, went with the <me> tactic, is a tank, things should usually be in range to be affected. Everything else was either too clunky to use, or resorting to <t> macro. Sometimes I can pre-position my mouse and drop it by tapping the confirm button mid rotation. But, remains not ideal.

That said, if some players can get some enjoyment and utility out of it? Sure, maybe?

[LathyrusLoon]

I used to macro shadowflare to <target>. Super easy, no delay. I miss it. my dome of doom T_T

[wereotter]

And yes more ground targeting stuff would be awful on controller. Plus a job wich is based around such skills would have a lot of fun with bad tanks who pull the enemies out of their skills >.>

This...

I can't tell you how many times I've dropped Doton only to have tanks pull the enemies out of it. I don't even bother trying to use it most times anymore since I just can't trust tanks. I can only imagine how much worse it would be for a job that exists solely on this... or if it's expanded more into other jobs, then you run into the issue of one DPS dropping a pool in one spot and another dropping it somewhere else, which we used to see when we had ground AOEs on ninja, bard, machinist, summoner, and dark knight.