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    NullPointerException's Avatar
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    Empty Set
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    Red Mage Lv 90

    I want more ground-targeting.

    I hope casters can have more ground-targeting spells, or perhaps have a separate caster class that revolves around such spells. I find a class with different ground-targeting spells, each with its own cast timer and delay mechanic, more satisfying to play in PvE and PvP. I understand too many ground-targeting spells can make dungeon mobbing too easy and perhaps create a gap between PC and console player bases. I am curious what the community thinks about this.
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    Player HeulGDarian's Avatar
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    Heul Darian
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    Shadowflare i miss you come back to me baby garudas slipstream suck TT
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    Bun Fisha
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    No. I don't need more spells that is almost impossible to use with controller.
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    LathyrusLoon's Avatar
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    Elhi Syn
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I used to macro shadowflare to <target>. Super easy, no delay. I miss it. my dome of doom T_T
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shahi View Post
    No. I don't need more spells that is almost impossible to use with controller.
    Ummmm....it was extremely easy to place aoes with a controller.

    But I'm good with no ground base aoes. Tanks don't like to stay in them
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    Siren
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    Bard Lv 90
    You mean stuff like Salted Earth, Asylum, Sacred Soil, etc.? Big ol' nope for me. I find it a pain to place down ground AoEs just because there's no smart cast or range lock. If we could easily place an AoE without having to click, and if we could lock the mouse to the maximum distance of the spell when trying to place the AoE then sure, it'd actually be convenient to do so and I wouldn't mind. But we don't have those and I just find it annoying to place ground target AoEs quickly or at max distance..
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shahi View Post
    No. I don't need more spells that is almost impossible to use with controller.
    Quote Originally Posted by Beddict View Post
    You mean stuff like Salted Earth, Asylum, Sacred Soil, etc.? Big ol' nope for me. I find it a pain to place down ground AoEs just because there's no smart cast or range lock. If we could easily place an AoE without having to click, and if we could lock the mouse to the maximum distance of the spell when trying to place the AoE then sure, it'd actually be convenient to do so and I wouldn't mind. But we don't have those and I just find it annoying to place ground target AoEs quickly or at max distance..
    It's like you read my mind.
    I'm in total agreement.

    A lot of those moves also defy this game's rigid macros.
    Like, DRK's Salted Earth you could macro it to be centered on a target, but what if you're in a duty and need to drop it in the middle of a group of pulls, not on the boss?
    For something like NIN's dash it's great on controller because you can just click where you wanna go, but when I macro it to just make the dash max range I find I jump from one AoE to another, or off the edge, or w/e.

    Less ground targeting moves please.
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    Wind-up Antecedent
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    Zalera
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Like, DRK's Salted Earth you could macro it to be centered on a target, but what if you're in a duty and need to drop it in the middle of a group of pulls, not on the boss?
    You can macro it to drop on your location instead of your current target. Though that opens up the possibility of misclicking it and dropping the salt far away from the boss. Macroing it to target an enemy also runs into issues when that enemies is a boss like the Idol of Darkness—the boss's center is off-stage, and so the game thinks you're trying to place Salted Earth at an invalid location.

    It's a really annoying ability, honestly.
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    Player
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    Siren
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch View Post
    You can macro it to drop on your location instead of your current target. Though that opens up the possibility of misclicking it and dropping the salt far away from the boss. Macroing it to target an enemy also runs into issues when that enemies is a boss like the Idol of Darkness—the boss's center is off-stage, and so the game thinks you're trying to place Salted Earth at an invalid location.

    It's a really annoying ability, honestly.
    The Idol of Darkness issue is actually why I swapped over to using a <me> macro for Salted Earth, stupid thing kept erroring out when I tried to use it in my standard double-weave opener. Sure, the macro had a fail-safe line that pulled up the ground targeting circle just in case, but it was such a colossal pain to try and drop the AoE while also working Plunge into the double-weave and it usually caused me to clip my GCD and lose a Blood Weapon. So yeah, swapped to <me>, works better I find. Not the best because there's the issue you mentioned of course, but here's hoping I never fat-finger and screw up.
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    Lucy Pyre
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Double weaving Salted Earth is already enough of a pain in the ass. The less ground targeted skills, the better.
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