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    MsMisato's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    It's interesting seeing people say Cleric Stance. Do people actually miss it, or is that just cool to say?

    Back in ARR/HW I liked Cleric Stance. It was an interesting skill check and I was proud of my stance dancing powers. Then SE said it was going away in SB. "What?!", cried the healer community. "Won't healing be super boring without it?" Well, no, as it turns out. Healing is just fine without CS and 3 years on now I honestly don't miss the stance dance at all (see also, tank stances.) I didn't mind CS's existence but I'm also not sad that it's gone now.
    I mean the original CS literally took your MND and swapped it with INT for DMG output. People complained about it because they didn't like having to flip back and forth. I mean if you forget to turn it off, you neutered your healing output literally. Originally CS required some sort of mastery to effectively do the deeps and heals as whm. The CS after 2.5 sucked. it was a temp buff for like a small increase in damage output. Now whm is mehish buts that me.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The PvE version of Fluid Aura - now that's a joke. I don't know if it's any better in PvP since I don't PvP.


    Yea FLuid Auro use to dmg with a knockback. NOt sure about PVP I would imagine it retained its knockback and dmg.
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    It's interesting seeing people say Cleric Stance. Do people actually miss it, or is that just cool to say?

    Back in ARR/HW I liked Cleric Stance. It was an interesting skill check and I was proud of my stance dancing powers. Then SE said it was going away in SB. "What?!", cried the healer community. "Won't healing be super boring without it?" Well, no, as it turns out. Healing is just fine without CS and 3 years on now I honestly don't miss the stance dance at all (see also, tank stances.) I didn't mind CS's existence but I'm also not sad that it's gone now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    It's interesting seeing people say Cleric Stance. Do people actually miss it, or is that just cool to say?

    Back in ARR/HW I liked Cleric Stance. It was an interesting skill check and I was proud of my stance dancing powers. Then SE said it was going away in SB. "What?!", cried the healer community. "Won't healing be super boring without it?" Well, no, as it turns out. Healing is just fine without CS and 3 years on now I honestly don't miss the stance dance at all (see also, tank stances.) I didn't mind CS's existence but I'm also not sad that it's gone now.
    Yes, yes I do, because healing is still super boring without it. It added a risk/reward to playing healer that just does not exist anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    It's interesting seeing people say Cleric Stance. Do people actually miss it, or is that just cool to say?

    Back in ARR/HW I liked Cleric Stance. It was an interesting skill check and I was proud of my stance dancing powers. Then SE said it was going away in SB. "What?!", cried the healer community. "Won't healing be super boring without it?" Well, no, as it turns out. Healing is just fine without CS and 3 years on now I honestly don't miss the stance dance at all (see also, tank stances.) I didn't mind CS's existence but I'm also not sad that it's gone now.
    It was a risk x reward thing, and those things always feels good when you master them. A similar thing with tank stances, though you could still tank without them, having Sword Oath/Deliverance on meant not having such an easy time on fresh enemies and of course, having to remember to swap back before you ate a tank buster. Both accomplished the same thing: rewarding fight knowledge with better performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    It's interesting seeing people say Cleric Stance. Do people actually miss it, or is that just cool to say?

    Back in ARR/HW I liked Cleric Stance. It was an interesting skill check and I was proud of my stance dancing powers. Then SE said it was going away in SB. "What?!", cried the healer community. "Won't healing be super boring without it?" Well, no, as it turns out. Healing is just fine without CS and 3 years on now I honestly don't miss the stance dance at all (see also, tank stances.) I didn't mind CS's existence but I'm also not sad that it's gone now.
    I never played much with HW version, but I'd gladly take either version at this point. Literally anything that helps break up "broil broil broil broil broil" I will take literally anything at this point.
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    Mei Coincounter
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    I could never miss any of the ground targeted DoTs. IMO they are not worth having in FFXIV especially when they are making up such a small % of a job's DPS. Just make it an AOE DoT applied directly to the enemy and minimize visual clutter at all costs. It's not compatible with a game that is using ground markers as an indication for almost everything. Garuda-Egi's AOE is particularly egregious when you are doing a dungeon that already has enemies creating tornadoes. I hope all the DPS ground-targeted AOEs are taken out or reworked, especially super clumsy ones like Salted Earth.

    I am more forgiving of defensive stuff. oGCD heals are pretty important and there's bigger gameplay implications in their use. Earthly Star is a super cool idea made more compelling by the dynamic functionality.

    Also as a Final Fantasy fan, the Shadow Flare we got was a massive disgrace to the name. That's not what Shadow Flare is like at all and in terms of energy, damage, and impact, it should be much more like Scorch or something. Incidentally we do have that version of Shadow Flare but it's only used by enemies. If we ever get Geomancers I hope they cut the crap and give us the real deal; it was their strongest attack in FFIII so it would fit. It was also a Chemist concoction in FFV so it could work on them, too.
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    Ring of Thorns on Drg, also in a small way Phlebotomize tho that one probably interrupts dps as drg by a good amount.

    Edit: kind of stoneskin too.
    Tho its funny some mobs still use stoneskin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargazer_Bleu View Post
    Ring of Thorns on Drg, also in a small way Phlebotomize tho that one probably interrupts dps as drg by a good amount.

    Edit: kind of stoneskin too.
    Tho its funny some mobs still use stoneskin.
    Enemies and NPCs from still use all the old skills they knew back in the day.
    If you do some old quests with Yuguri she'll still use Kiss of the Viper and such.
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    http://king.canadane.com

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