What skill do you miss most?

[Packetdancer]

*Touches the old picture frame.*
Fluid Aura (OG)
Stone Skin
Aero 3
Cleric Stance (HW & SB)
Protect.

I left the game years ago, then came back this past August. My hotbars were a sea of disabled icons when I first logged back in, and it was like "...where is Protect? Stoneskin? Cleric stance?!" and then the first time I got into solo questing combat I added "And also WTF happened to Fluid Aura?!" (I don't know why that one's even still on my hotbars at this point, other than "nostalgia". I sure as heck never use it.)

So... yes. All of these.

[Stargazer_Bleu]

Ring of Thorns on Drg, also in a small way Phlebotomize tho that one probably interrupts dps as drg by a good amount.

Edit: kind of stoneskin too.
Tho its funny some mobs still use stoneskin.

[Canadane]

Ring of Thorns on Drg, also in a small way Phlebotomize tho that one probably interrupts dps as drg by a good amount.

Edit: kind of stoneskin too.
Tho its funny some mobs still use stoneskin.

Enemies and NPCs from still use all the old skills they knew back in the day.
If you do some old quests with Yuguri she'll still use Kiss of the Viper and such.

[Duskane]

pretty much all of Drks old skills and effects,
Fracture,Mercy stroke,foresight
Grenade shot,MCH debuffs had some really cool animations too.

[gumas]

Not functionally, but aesthetically.
I miss Protect, and by association, Shell.

you know, it would be nice if they put that in emote or some kind. just an emote, not a buff or anything, just merely an animation to show off

[Recon1o6]

Does anyone know of some kind of list with all the old skills and when they were removed?

this is an incomplete list since it doesn't take into account stuff like delirium

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/inde...+Wing#mw-pages
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/inde...+Wing#mw-pages

[MsMisato]

you know, it would be nice if they put that in emote or some kind. just an emote, not a buff or anything, just merely an animation to show off

still used in PvP its a 20% inc dmg debuff but that's where it is used at still

[Ilenya]

It's interesting seeing people say Cleric Stance. Do people actually miss it, or is that just cool to say?

Back in ARR/HW I liked Cleric Stance. It was an interesting skill check and I was proud of my stance dancing powers. Then SE said it was going away in SB. "What?!", cried the healer community. "Won't healing be super boring without it?" Well, no, as it turns out. Healing is just fine without CS and 3 years on now I honestly don't miss the stance dance at all (see also, tank stances.) I didn't mind CS's existence but I'm also not sad that it's gone now.

Yes, yes I do, because healing is still super boring without it. It added a risk/reward to playing healer that just does not exist anymore

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

I miss way too many, there were so many cool abilities with fantastic animations that are just...gone, its a real shame, some of them felt fantastic to use and looked great.

I miss the majority of DRK's abilities that were cut (Dark Passenger, Scourge, Power Slash, Dark Dance, Shadowskin, Blood Price, Soul Survivor) I miss most of the DoTs they cut off of most jobs for no reason, like Mutilate, Touch of Death, Lead Shot, Aero III, various bios/miasmas, I miss a lot of various skills in general, either because they felt great to use or because they had really slick animations.

I deeply hope they add a job action glamour system of a sort in the future, or if they repurposed all those old animations/skills and add them back in a way that feels natural, because I do miss them, either because they felt good to use or added a lot of flavor to the job, like how PLD used to be able to raise, it wasn't especially useful, since it could only be used outside combat, but it was still a nice bit of flavor for them.

[Crushnight]

It's interesting seeing people say Cleric Stance. Do people actually miss it, or is that just cool to say?

Back in ARR/HW I liked Cleric Stance. It was an interesting skill check and I was proud of my stance dancing powers. Then SE said it was going away in SB. "What?!", cried the healer community. "Won't healing be super boring without it?" Well, no, as it turns out. Healing is just fine without CS and 3 years on now I honestly don't miss the stance dance at all (see also, tank stances.) I didn't mind CS's existence but I'm also not sad that it's gone now.

I miss HW cleric stance far more now than I ever did in SB. Yet I saw its change in SB as a necessary evil, as it was causing issues with getting people to play healers with how it gimped your healing, great for those who were trying to master their job, not so great for fresh healers.

However we didn't lose as much of our dps kits on the transition from HW-SB, the other mechanics a job had also masked the loss(fairy management, time dialiation old Celestial Opposition etc),Whm just had it the worst with how much of their stuff was made cross role and their job mechanic sucked. However ShB gutted more out of all 3 healers with nothing interesting replacing them, glorified cds than anything that makes you interact with yout kit, Cleric Stance removal is felt more keenly as healers are desperate to have something to break glare glare glare/broil broil broil/ malefic malefic malefic etc.

Healers skill ceiling is at an all time low, too low, if we had HW cleric stance back it would raise that ceiling sufficient enough to keep some more people invested in healers.

Imagine where you cannot continue spamming glare/broil/malefic because you need to heal even with ogcds rather than now where you can continue spamming because your ogcds are more than capable. There's no risk atm and it sucks big time wonky sick.