How Glamour Plates can be

[StriderShinryu]

I would be happy with them allowing one plate per job as sort of your "default" for that job and then even just 10 extras.

The biggest issue I have is really just when I switch between jobs of the same role because they share the same gear. Dancer, Bard and Machinist for example all have completely different styles but share the same gear and it just kind of sucks that you have to be in a City to properly switch between Dancer and Machinist given that you can technically switch jobs any time you're not in combat.

[kaynide]

Honestly, I think these kinds of things should just be a pay-per-month upgrade like retainers. If the data is so taxing on the system, then just have players pay for the storage system via Mog Station. A retainer adds roughly what, 150 slots for a buck. If a buck could get you, I dunno, 10 plates per month that's not bad.

Personally, I don't need more than 1 or 2 for most jobs. Maybe 5-6 for my mains?

[Jojoya]

Honestly, I think these kinds of things should just be a pay-per-month upgrade like retainers. If the data is so taxing on the system, then just have players pay for the storage system via Mog Station. A retainer adds roughly what, 150 slots for a buck. If a buck could get you, I dunno, 10 plates per month that's not bad.

Personally, I don't need more than 1 or 2 for most jobs. Maybe 5-6 for my mains?

Because paying money doesn't solve the issue of how it's "taxing the system". You're talking about information that needs to be communicated between the server and your client every time you open up the glamour interface. The more information getting shared, the longer things take to load.

Right now the load delay almost isn't noticeable because it's only information for 15 plates (usually it's only noticeable if I'm standing in a housing ward when I go to change my glamour). Imagine how much worse it would be with 10 times that number of plates.

What would be nice is if a copy of our glamour plates could be saved to our local clients once edits are confirmed in an inn room at the glamour dresser. That could potentially open the door to more plates (you'd only get the additional load lag if you're in the inn room, not a big deal). That would allow us to select a plate from any location in the game (possibly not instances) since the only communication would be the client notifying the servers what was selected instead of the servers having to send all the options to our client to be chosen. But I imagine that would open the door to other problems, especially if players started modding the saved glamour plates directly on the local client.

[kaynide]

Because paying money doesn't solve the issue of how it's "taxing the system".

...how does it not if said money can go into the necessary infrastructure to have said system?

If enough people want X and there’s money to be made selling X, it’s common sense business to upgrade X and make it even more sellable.

The last wave of wards (actually might have been the ones pre storm blood) were funded by mogstation purchases. So not really seeing your point unless you honestly believe they wouldn’t try to improve on the tech of what could be a source of easy revenue.

[Seraphor]

...how does it not if said money can go into the necessary infrastructure to have said system?

If enough people want X and there’s money to be made selling X, it’s common sense business to upgrade X and make it even more sellable.

The last wave of wards (actually might have been the ones pre storm blood) were funded by mogstation purchases. So not really seeing your point unless you honestly believe they wouldn’t try to improve on the tech of what could be a source of easy revenue.

There's a difference between literally buying additional servers to host more housing wards, and fixing an underlying issue in the code that is preventing a certain feature from working, especially if those issues are integral to the game.
The former is literally a case of more money = more servers, the latter could range from anywhere between "a few hours of debugging" to "completely redesigning the entire game from scratch" and only SE know where on that spectrum this issue lies.

[kaynide]

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It’s still just a question if demand and money though. If it takes 100 players buying in and that’s enough revenue to get it working, then it’s pure profit after 100 people. If it’s 500? 1000? It’s just a matter of time and money.

On the other hand if a huge code overhaul is needed, there may never be enough buy in to recoup investment costs, in which case it will just never happen.

Personally, I’m not sure why they could do the equivalent of a kickstarter for things like this. So we know what SE puts as a general price tag of X to happen before they commit to it. They should have a very general ballpark figure of manhours needed to do what we want, just need to see if enough players buy into it.

[Jojoya]

...how does it not if said money can go into the necessary infrastructure to have said system?

If enough people want X and there’s money to be made selling X, it’s common sense business to upgrade X and make it even more sellable.

The last wave of wards (actually might have been the ones pre storm blood) were funded by mogstation purchases. So not really seeing your point unless you honestly believe they wouldn’t try to improve on the tech of what could be a source of easy revenue.

Because not all that infrastructure is on SE's end. Part of it is on your end. Your operating system and hardware make a difference, whether it's high end computer, low end computer, PS4 with or without SSD, etc. Your internet connection speed makes a difference.

There's a reason why minimum and recommended system requirements get listed. If only things on the game developer's end made a difference, those requirement lists would be totally unnecessary. If what you had on your end didn't make a difference, Windows 95 would be supported.

[kaynide]

Because not all that infrastructure is on SE's end. Part of it is on your end. Your operating system and hardware make a difference, whether it's high end computer, low end computer, PS4 with or without SSD, etc. Your internet connection speed makes a difference

Thus the ballpark figure of work? Obviously building for lowest spec option, SE knows what would need to be done to allow for +X glamour plates. It would boil down to a creative use of tabs, or loading only 10 at a time or something. Still just boils down to a price tag and time, and how much it would need to raise to be worth SE’s time..or if it would never be worth their time/too much sunk costs. Quite possibly it would raise enough money.

A company as big as SE initiating a 'kickstarter' would go down like a lead balloon.

You are saying if SE added a prepurchase option to mogstation with something like “ff7 Tifa’s attire! If we get 500 prepurchaes we will make this thing! Prepurchasers get special version! (The hq version or blue background)” people wouldn’t bite? I’m sure people would, and it would help SE to not make stuff no one wants to buy.

[Morningstar1337]

I'd rather that not go that route as I'm rather cheap (and have concerns about it being p2w under the pretense of glamour being the real endgame), but with that said, it is certainly possible. And I do think that if they do decide to sell it then 5 plates and 200 additional slots would be fair for 2$ a month.

That said I think it would be better to have 30 free plates first (1 for each class and some left over) and upgrade that number to account for later Jobs, while targeting paid upgrade to those that prefer to change up glams for the same job constantly.

[kaynide]

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It would be nice at the very least if there could just be 1 plate per gear set you have unlocked. I think the current is something like...35? 40? Something like that.

But I get it, glamour is not connected to progression so it’s total fluff. It’s all in the player base’s collective heads. This I would expect mogstation unlockables.