Praetorium - Worst Experience Ever

[DBriggs304]

I'm confused...

How did you miss anything when you can't skip the cutscenes? You logged off cause the group was rushing through it, so how is that on the group?

There won't be a group anywhere in this game that won't rush through Prae or Castrum especially with the moogle event going on unless it's a FC that is purposely running it slow.

[MistakeNot]

I'm confused...

How did you miss anything when you can't skip the cutscenes? You logged off cause the group was rushing through it, so how is that on the group?

They missed near everything in between the cutscenes. I ran into that problem a while ago when I briefly disconnected right before getting the magitek armour. As a result I was of course behind the group when I got back in, but I couldn't catch up with them for a long while because I was bombarded with cutscene after cutscene after cutscene, without seeing what triggered the cutscenes.
For me this wasn't much of a problem - I have run Praetorium plenty of times before, so I know it well enough. For a new person it wouldn't have been much fun though.

[Raltar]

They missed near everything in between the cutscenes.

But there is literally nothing of note between cut scenes. Just trash mobs. And even the fastest groups would have trouble killing Nero in the 15 seconds it takes for the teleport option to show up. So you literally miss nothing.

[MistakeNot]

But there is literally nothing of note between cut scenes. Just trash mobs. And even the fastest groups would have trouble killing Nero in the 15 seconds it takes for the teleport option to show up. So you literally miss nothing.

I don't think you know what the word "literally" means.

Trash mobs are not "nothing". Not very exciting, that is true, but how would a new player even know that they are there? Walking with the magitek armour and blowing things up is one of the more fun parts of the dungeon in my opinion. Missing that isn't "nothing".
It may not be important stuff one is missing, but a new player would have no way of knowing that.

[TeraRamis]

I don't think you know what the word "literally" means.

Trash mobs are not "nothing". Not very exciting, that is true, but how would a new player even know that they are there? Walking with the magitek armour and blowing things up is one of the more fun parts of the dungeon in my opinion. Missing that isn't "nothing".
It may not be important stuff one is missing, but a new player would have no way of knowing that.

I hated Prae the first time I ran it. I got left behind, but I didn't care - I just wanted it to end. I was bored to tears, and only wanted to get the heck out.

[Alleo]

Yes the devs had not completely thought it through when they created these two dungeons and they never did something like that again. I would be 100% fine if made these dungeons into NPC only runs so that anyone can enjoy it on their own pace.

But I also have to say: It was much worse back then when we had no forced cutscenes (and even though I was against these at the beginning, I now have grown to accept them) and I am not really sure why you got so confused OP. Yes people rush but most of the time the tank takes the monsters and if you stay with the group you mostly should have no problem to follow them. Only problem is, when the rest of the group either skips cutscenes (which is against the ToS) or if they have a certain language because then certain cutscenes are shorter. But as soon as another boss battle begins you are ported there and should then be able to keep up again.

I do try to wait for new people and even mark the one thing for the keys with a one but imo it should not be that much of a dealbreaker. Just wait until you are teleported with them and then you still can take part in the boss fights.

[Naoki34]

MSQ dungeon are always bad experience...

5 min of cutscene -> Rush to the next cutscene -> 5 min of... =>>> Total : 45 min+ for finish the dungeon
Pnj speak to much...

Why is my group watching the bad guy doing 5 min of exhibition dialogue, telling us how ambitious and bad he is groar ... Then let him go by walking instead of backstabbing him, instead to watch him walk slowly towards his big mecha or are we too arrogant like Vegeta? Hmmm I'm too strong, let him get into his big machine ... /facepalm

[Rosenstrauch]

Why is my group watching the bad guy doing 5 min of exhibition dialogue, telling us how ambitious and bad he is groar ... Then let him go by walking instead of backstabbing him, instead to watch him walk slowly towards his big mecha or are we too arrogant like Vegeta? Hmmm I'm too strong, let him get into his big machine ... /facepalm

He offered us two pizzas with stuffed crusts.

[Esmoire]

MSQ dungeon are always bad experience...

5 min of cutscene -> Rush to the next cutscene -> 5 min of... =>>> Total : 45 min+ for finish the dungeon
Pnj speak to much...

Why is my group watching the bad guy doing 5 min of exhibition dialogue, telling us how ambitious and bad he is groar ... Then let him go by walking instead of backstabbing him, instead to watch him walk slowly towards his big mecha or are we too arrogant like Vegeta? Hmmm I'm too strong, let him get into his big machine ... /facepalm

It's so awful. The ending of ARR in general is a huge let down, and I get the feeling they planned way more than they could deliver on, what with the fact ARR was rushed and had a lot of baggage from 1.0.

Feels like out of all the big bads we saw, Livia was the only one that was developed on screen. Rhitahtyn to some degree got a little, but was just bulldozed unceremoniously. Figure like all of them could have had echo scenes or something to tell us more about our adversary and empathize with their motivations. Instead, Gaius and Nero have a truckload of exposition just crammed into one dungeon with them. Gaius has over 15 min of dialogue and talks so much, yet says so little. Feel like if they spread the exposition out better and had better writing, they wouldn't need to have so many long cutscenes.

[TyrTry]

He offered us two pizzas with stuffed crusts.

I mean...that would get me stick.

"Want to listen to my 2 hour lecture about pancakes?!"

"NO!"

"But pizza with stuffed crust...."

"You have my attention. "