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[Billythepancake]

Recitation.
1) The SCH community had been asking for a guaranteed-crit ability for years
2) The community was (with fair regularity) abusing critlo spread to ignore mechanics
3) Squeenix doesn't like it when their mechanics get foiled

Put those three together, and you get nerfed, guaranteed critlo.

I'm going to go against the grain here, but, I'm okay with the critlo nerf. I am not opposed to change, but, it needs to be a good change, and if something is lost then something of equal or greater value needs to be given in return. Yes we lost the critlo spread, and that certainly stings a bit in certain situations, but, in return we got recitation, the only good thing that SCH got this expac (I genuinely adore recitation, I think it is a natural evolution of SCH's kit and it feels good to get those free crit indoms)

The problems I have with SCH is everything else they took away and didn't give us anything in return. What did I get for Selene? Nothing. What did I get for Miasma? Nothing. What did I get for bane? Nothing. What did I get shadowflare? Nothing. What did I get for Miasma II? Art of war, which is worse. What did I get for eye for an eye? Nothing. What did I get for a fairy that was amazing? A gimped oGCD that is worse in every single category.

Change is fine, or even good in a lot of cases. But if you're going to take something away there needs to be something to replace it. That is where ShB SCH fails. The only place they didn't fail this in, imo, is with the critlo nerf because recitation does, imo, do a good job in replacing it.

[Absurdity]

Recitation.
1) The SCH community had been asking for a guaranteed-crit ability for years
2) The community was (with fair regularity) abusing critlo spread to ignore mechanics
3) Squeenix doesn't like it when their mechanics get foiled

Put those three together, and you get nerfed, guaranteed critlo.

In that case Recitation was the wrong answer.

I'd argue people wanted a guaranteed crit ability for adlo for exactly those beefy shield spreads.
You rarely ever want to actually use Recitation on an adlo simply because of it's value as a free crit indom or excog and spread adlo being so incredibly weak.
Anything you'd mitigate with a spread adlo can be mitigated by a Succor and most of the time you don't need shields at all since you're gonna have to spend resources healing afterwards anyway.
The biggest benefit to those ridiculous adlo spreads was that the healers didn't need to spend anything on healing because nobody took any damage to begin with.


Even for single target mitigation there hasn't been a situation so far where a crit adlo is necessary or beneficial when a crit excog does the same job but better.

[bundythenoob]

In that case Recitation was the wrong answer.

I'd argue people wanted a guaranteed crit ability for adlo for exactly those beefy shield spreads.
You rarely ever want to actually use Recitation on an adlo simply because of it's value as a free crit indom or excog and spread adlo being so incredibly weak.
Anything you'd mitigate with a spread adlo can be mitigated by a Succor and most of the time you don't need shields at all since you're gonna have to spend resources healing afterwards anyway.
The biggest benefit to those ridiculous adlo spreads was that the healers didn't need to spend anything on healing because nobody took any damage to begin with.


Even for single target mitigation there hasn't been a situation so far where a crit adlo is necessary or beneficial when a crit excog does the same job but better.

I would add that deployed critlo might have more value with helping SCHs weakened healing and offence in SHB. as it stands, SCH as such low healing and damage that it could use the old critlo deployment combo in general. maybe even lower the cooldown of deployment to 90 secs if they wont give SCH back its offencive tools. I would also add eye for eye effect back on deployment to make it a little stronger too

[Gravagar]

In that case Recitation was the wrong answer.

I'd argue people wanted a guaranteed crit ability for adlo for exactly those beefy shield spreads.
You rarely ever want to actually use Recitation on an adlo simply because of it's value as a free crit indom or excog and spread adlo being so incredibly weak.
Anything you'd mitigate with a spread adlo can be mitigated by a Succor and most of the time you don't need shields at all since you're gonna have to spend resources healing afterwards anyway.
The biggest benefit to those ridiculous adlo spreads was that the healers didn't need to spend anything on healing because nobody took any damage to begin with.


Even for single target mitigation there hasn't been a situation so far where a crit adlo is necessary or beneficial when a crit excog does the same job but better.

Yup, this. As a former SCH main, I'm sure you know exactly how pissed I was to learn I finally got the one ability I've been wishing to get for YEARS, only for it to come at the cost of being unable to perform the very action I intended to use it on. Hell, it practically felt like encounters were designed to MAKE crit spread adlos feel like you just did something amazing, with mechanics like Grand Cross, Forsaken, Hello World that force the party to spread out right after chunking you. And somehow, SOMEHOW, Dissipation didn't get axed from the kit despite the massacre happening on all the buttons and features I actually used on a daily basis.



If SE doesn't like mechanics getting cheesed, take Hallowed and friends away from tanks. I'm kidding, don't do that, because nobody else deserves what happened to healers. Instead: Give WHM and AST cooldowns that are as awesome as pre-nerf Deployment. And then, when they have them, actually design encounters properly so that being able to deploy crit adlos doesn't automatically give you free wins.
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...wait, what? You were never able to clear a fight for free just because you have crit adlos? The fights were actually designed properly? Huh. I guess it's not as overpowered as people make it out to be, huh?