Living Dead and other DRK QOL in 5.3

**Seraphor** · 07-04-2020 01:26 AM

So then why does your proposed "fix" still have a 50% healing requirement instead of 100%?
That's still a cost, they still die if that 50% healing isn't met.
You're not fixing the problem, why are you only advocating for a half-fix if the idea of any cost is wrong?

**cactuarzzzz** · 07-04-2020 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by Seraphor

So then why does your proposed "fix" still have a 50% healing requirement instead of 100%?
That's still a cost, they still die if that 50% healing isn't met.
You're not fixing the problem, why are you only advocating for a half-fix if the idea of any cost is wrong?

Because that's where the new sole survivor come in which doesn't hurt drk mp resource and also help the healer.
I planed the fix by reduce the resource required for LD and also asking for new resource which aid both drk and healers instead of exhausted the resource we have even more. The way I try to fix this is different than your.

**Seraphor** · 07-04-2020 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz

Because that's where the new sole survivor come in which doesn't hurt drk mp resource and also help the healer.

Soul Survivor would end up being used as part of the mitigation rotation, (20% bonus healing plus 30% of your HP restored? That's better than Clemency) so you can't guarantee that it would be available to use just before you need to hit LD.
Plus you need to use SS before LD or that 30% HP heal won't save you, so your invuln becomes 2 buttons... that you need to hit in a pinch. Surely that's making things more complicated?

**cactuarzzzz** · 07-04-2020 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by Seraphor

Soul Survivor would end up being used as part of the mitigation rotation, (20% bonus healing plus 30% of your HP restored? That's better than Clemency) so you can't guarantee that it would be available to use just before you need to hit LD.
Plus you need to use SS before LD or that 30% HP heal won't save you, so your invuln becomes 2 buttons... that you need to hit in a pinch. Surely that's making things more complicated?

Are you intended LD to be a panic button?

**Seraphor** · 07-04-2020 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz

Were you intended LD to be a panic button?

That's exactly what it is, outside of Savage/Ultimate.

Within Savage/Ultimate all of these draw backs aren't a problem, because everything is planned out to the second and you and your party should know what to expect and when.
Your healer will know exactly when they need to heal you to full, so it all just becomes another 'mechanic' to address.

**Tranquilmelody7** · 07-04-2020 04:28 AM

The constant comparisons between Living Dead and Holmang and Superbollide are highly disingenuous.

You are by no means required to receive a cumulative 100% of your HP in heals, making them far easier to manage than Living Dead.

WAR also, as previously mentioned; has plenty of options to carry themselves out of the ballpark of death.

**Billythepancake** · 07-04-2020 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by ItMe

By that logic, should we also give WAR and GNG a way to restore their own HP to max after their invulns?

WAR absolutely can restore themselves up. Maybe not to full, but after my WAR uses HG in E8s the healers never touch him, he just heals himself back up to like 70-80%.

**Jirah** · 07-04-2020 04:53 PM

Stalwart soul is not a Lv 54 skill, tbh we get out AOE rotation way to late

**Lyth** · 07-05-2020 12:20 AM

People who main other tanks will tell you that Living Dead isn't so bad, but when you ask them to swap their tank job's invuln for yours they balk. Everyone knows this is a problem action, from design, to tooltip, to execution. The devs are just stymied as to how to make it actually work while being unique.

Just get rid of invulns altogether, and call it a day.

**Lucy_Pyre** · 07-05-2020 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Lyth

People who main other tanks will tell you that Living Dead isn't so bad, but when you ask them to swap their tank job's invuln for yours they balk. Everyone knows this is a problem action, from design, to tooltip, to execution. The devs are just stymied as to how to make it actually work while being unique.

Just get rid of invulns altogether, and call it a day.

Give me LD on WAR, I literally don't care. Also, no, invulns are a neat thing that tanks get in this game that I see rarely in other MMOs. Keep them.

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