My experience as a DPS and my issue with tanks

[Rae88]

We have combos that break while WoW has aoe to mash

Which is actually a good thing imo. Ret Paladin has a total of about 6 buttons in their rotation which gets really boring really quickly. Fury warrior has about 8. Havoc Demon Hunter has maybe 5 or 6. Beastmaster Hunters just mash the kill button then off they go to Netflix.

I like that FFXIV has combos thank you I wish WoW had combos :P

[Laesha]

If dps want this, they need to stop starting dps when the tank runs through the first group with nothing but an overpower. Machinists need to not blow a Drill on a single mob and pull it off when they could wait and use a bio-blaster. Nine times out of ten, when i see staggered pulls, it's because the tank has to stop and retake aggro from some stupid dps who starts dps too soon (and blows all their heavy hits early anyway).

[Mavrias]

If dps want this, they need to stop starting dps when the tank runs through the first group with nothing but an overpower. Machinists need to not blow a Drill on a single mob and pull it off when they could wait and use a bio-blaster. Nine times out of ten, when i see staggered pulls, it's because the tank has to stop and retake aggro from some stupid dps who starts dps too soon (and blows all their heavy hits early anyway).

Literally why would you stop before the pull is done. If a dps pulls off one mob its no big deal. They can take an auto or two from a trash mob. Just pick it back up once you've pulled everything that's gonna get pulled. Threat is trivial. A single overpower (or tomahawk if its truly that far away) is more than enough.

[Deceptus]

If dps want this, they need to stop starting dps when the tank runs through the first group with nothing but an overpower. Machinists need to not blow a Drill on a single mob and pull it off when they could wait and use a bio-blaster. Nine times out of ten, when i see staggered pulls, it's because the tank has to stop and retake aggro from some stupid dps who starts dps too soon (and blows all their heavy hits early anyway).

Pretty much this. Latency sucks in this game and while you think you have them all a tank might have missed one. Then you get that trigger happy DPS who refuses to stay close to the tank and then complains when THEY have aggro that THEY can't manage.

[Gemina]

I honestly can deal with the staggered pulls a whole lot more in comparison to some of the other things tanks do. OP is making a mountain out of molehill.

[Xtrasweettea]

[...] Anyway...the point of this post. PLEASE, please, please to all the tanks out there....stop grabbing a group of mobs (2-4 enemies) letting the group burn through 2 or 3 and running to the next pack. You might as well just grab both and let the group burn them down in their entirety. In doing this, buffs that enabled are wasted because you're spending time running to the next group. Now the DPS and healers have to spend time re-applying debuffs and buffs/sheilds when they could have just done that from the start with a larger pull. [...]

The tanks you are trying to reach out to with this PSA do not frequent the forums... or even know about the forums.

I can safely assume the tanks on the forums pretty much as a whole would agree to your PSA and already don't do what you are describing.

Your PSA needed to have been brought up during the dungeon you were in with that specific tank.

[Arrius]

Your PSA needed to have been brought up during the dungeon you were in with that specific tank.

Role PSA's in General Discussion are always good attention grabbers for Likes and to stir the pot, so they won't stop coming.
You could change some words and it would be something for DPS or healers as well, and the result would be the same.

[SturmChurro]

Role PSA's in General Discussion are always good attention grabbers for Likes and to stir the pot, so they won't stop coming.
You could change some words and it would be something for DPS or healers as well, and the result would be the same.

I don't understand this. Do likes even contribute anything aside from a number at the bottom of that specific post? I don't think this is like Reddit where likes are the be-all end-all.

[Renato]

If dps want this, they need to stop starting dps when the tank runs through the first group with nothing but an overpower. Machinists need to not blow a Drill on a single mob and pull it off when they could wait and use a bio-blaster. Nine times out of ten, when i see staggered pulls, it's because the tank has to stop and retake aggro from some stupid dps who starts dps too soon (and blows all their heavy hits early anyway).

This isn't really a problem in ShB though. Aggro has been super easy to gain and keep regardless of if a DPS does that or not as long as you have your tank stance up. You also have provoke for that pesky enemy that is outside of the Overpower cone and your long range pull. (tomahawk) Honestly, at lower levels when you only have Overpower and you have a large pull, you should be spamming that. Single target attacks are more focused towards 1-2 enemies. At higher levels when you begin getting your full kit, there are more than enough AoE options for tanks to hold aggro easily.

The issue of a staggered pull comes up when a tank grabs a mob and starts running towards another group while the party is still in the process of burning down the current one.

[Jojoya]

This isn't really a problem in ShB though. Aggro has been super easy to gain

Server ticks can get in the way of gaining initial aggro though. I watch it happen often when I'm tanking. I'll run to the middle of a group, use an AoE and the name plate color will show one or two of the enemies engaged but still not claimed. It's especially annoying when it's a mob that was closer to me than the ones that are claimed.

I don't want to run off and have those enemies end up on top of a healer or DPS (which happens to me while healing occasionally if the tank is careless while pulling). To make sure they're all focused on me, I'll stop to make certain they're in proper AoE range and AoE at least once more if not twice before I move to the next group. If they all show claimed by my initial AoE, then I'll move on right away.

Provoke has that CD so generally I'll use my ranged attack to get aggro on strays. As long as I'm doing it just after they're engaged, they'll snap to me. I only need to use Provoke if a DPS has been tunnelng an enemy and keeping it pulled away from the group.

Literally why would you stop before the pull is done. If a dps pulls off one mob its no big deal. They can take an auto or two from a trash mob. Just pick it back up once you've pulled everything that's gonna get pulled. Threat is trivial. A single overpower (or tomahawk if its truly that far away) is more than enough.

You mean run back the 60 yards I had just traveled because the DPS is mindlessly standing back where the first group was as they take a beating from that enemy tunneled?

No thanks, I'd rather make certain I'm bringing that enemy with me in the first place.