Leaving duty debuff issue

[RitsukoSonoda]

Now if they would just bar people from queuing any roulettes for 24 hours if they bail on one because its annoying to have to wait around for replacements because someone didn't like the duty that pulled from it.

[Gemina]

OP, it shouldn't have to be told to you that when you join a duty, you are bound by it. As just as you feel your reasons were for leaving, the circumstances that initiate a duty lockout don't take those into consideration. Only the fact that you chose to leave a duty you were bound to.

Put simply; this first time your advice has failed to get a group through is because you gave up. And you bailed on your teammates in the process. The penalty is not only fine as is, it was well deserved. Did you even try initiating a vote abandon? I'm guessing you left a lot out of your OP. I won't presume to know anything as I was not there, but from my experience it has never been the game's mechanics that cause full abandons, or players to leave in NM encounters. It is usually a lack of communication, or the words that are being exchanged are combative.

All I can advise is chalk it up as a learning experience. Stop bailing. It really is quite infuriating when players do this.

[Rezef]

Well there are a lot of players that abandon when they see the tag Extreme and I can't really blame them for not wanting to play sth that can take so much time and in the end it ends into failure but that's what we signed for when taking the crown. Thus I think that if a mentor leaves from mentor queue they should have at least 1h of ban from DF.

[KageTokage]

Mentors don't deserve special privileges and I say that as one that's been actively trying to live up to the name since 3.x.

If a group seems genuinely hopeless, the best thing to do is vote abandon and hope they actually go through with it.

[Rongway]

There was no way we were gonna do it so i left. We get punished in the raid group because we get frustrated and then get even more frustrated when we get slapped with this 30 min debuff after we leave.

Maybe they could have done it in the next 10~20 minutes and you would have been able to queue again sooner than you could after bailing.
But you didn't stick around to find out, so 30 min lockout.

Mentors should be immune to these penalties period.

If you can't commit to the full duty timer, you shouldn't click Join, and you probably shouldn't pretend you're a mentor.

[Shanir]

I think us PvE mentors shouldn't be subject to this punishment when leaving a group. There was no way we were gonna do it so i left. We get punished in the raid group because we get frustrated and then get even more frustrated when we get slapped with this 30 min debuff after we leave. Mentors should be immune to these penalties period.

That is the most narcissistic thing I have ever heard.

[SnowX]

I was in a duty for over 15 minutes and left because the raid group didn't get the mechanics of 1 of the edenverse fights...the 3rd 1(iconoclasm?). I'm a pve mentor and have done the fights multiple times and never "lost" one i joined. Today was different.

I explained the mechanics to the 20 people(i'm exaggerating) that seemed new. We died about 4 or 5 times in the fight so even after I explained the mechanics I decided to leave, mind you it's after the 15 minute mark of the raid group.

To my shock, i got slapped with a 30 minute debuff. I left a very crappy party that couldn't make it passed the dps check because the dps kept dying from the umbra/umbral light switching. Remember, I explained how to do it and they were still dying. This wasn't the savage version either.

I think us PvE mentors shouldn't be subject to this punishment when leaving a group. There was no way we were gonna do it so i left. We get punished in the raid group because we get frustrated and then get even more frustrated when we get slapped with this 30 min debuff after we leave. Mentors should be immune to these penalties period.

You're yourself to blame for leaving the raid. And because of people like you, you don't have to wonder why a lot of people don't like mentors. In addition, it is known since 2. 0 that you get a penalty if you leave the content first or do not accept content several times. For mentors, the penalties should be higher, after all, mentors should support and not run away like a snapped child.

[Caitlinzulu]

This is actually troll level of disgusting frop op.
And this coming from someone who qualified as mentor from day one it was here but never wore the crown.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Ignore them, OP.

Most are moved by some misguided vendetta against mentors and regard them as slaves who should have no rights whatsoever. The toxic epithome of the "coddling bad gameplay" mentality - force mentors to carry the other players no matter what, even if it's glaringly obvious the duty won't be cleared until timing out.

P.S.: if people don't want to learn, trying the whole duty time won't change a thing.

[Goji1639]

Ignore them, OP.

Most are moved by some misguided vendetta against mentors and regard them as slaves who should have no rights whatsoever. The toxic epithome of the "coddling bad gameplay" mentality - force mentors to carry the other players no matter what, even if it's glaringly obvious the duty won't be cleared until timing out.

P.S.: if people don't want to learn, trying the whole duty time won't change a thing.

Not sure why any of this means that mentors should be immune to the abandon debuff. They're allowed to leave if a group is hopeless, same as everyone else, and they should get the same penalty.

Honestly, they should probably get a harsher penalty, because they're getting special rewards on the assumption that they're going to do whatever they can to help. If you want mentor rewards you should be expected to be more committed to helping than normal players would be.