How has your mindset changed with regards to other players since your started the ga?

[Vickii]

Ah, I was wondering when you would begin your tin foil hatting. There it is. If nothing else you're predictable.



I have yet to see evidence to the contrary. And, unlike you, I have forum posts (actual evidence) to back my claims up if I choose to. Really don't want to go searching though. In this post I'm responding to (dang post limits!) alone you have contradicted yourself 3-4 times. If you can provide the proof for your claims, by all means. But as the internet would say...pics or it didn't happen.

I think we just have a disconnect. You always ask for proof of things that can’t be proven. I say some players from WoW are elitist in novice network. My ‘proof’ is my personal experience. I have seen players say they played wow then go on to be elitist in novice network. I don’t really know how to prove this to you. Perhaps the burden of proof here should be on you. Show me that not a single elitist in novice network played wow.

[Vahlnir]

I think we just have a disconnect. You always ask for proof of things that can’t be proven. I say some players from WoW are elitist in novice network. My ‘proof’ is my personal experience. I have seen players say they played wow then go on to be elitist in novice network. I don’t really know how to prove this to you. Perhaps the burden of proof here should be on you. Show me that not a single elitist in novice network played wow.

Or you can come back to reality and not make baseless claims! I'm not arguing that elitist jerks exist. They do. But it isn't WoW's fault. Did you ever think the "rot" might have come from within? Because it did. Having played WoW up until recently and this game since ARR launch, I have watched it all unfold. WoW had nothing to do with why people are elitist sometimes. That just comes with the MMO territory. But it's easy to blame big and mean WoW for some people. It makes for an easy scapegoat. That is all that you do is use it as a scapegoat for problems that it had no hand in creating. Want someone or something to blame? Blame the internet for existing.

[Anhra]

This game and it's players really taught me to not take my rewards for granted because I'm starting to see some strange things in Duty Finder and Party Finder as time goes by.

Some example include, but are not limited to the following:
- Tanks who spin enemies around

That one, i can explain. Spinning (or kiting, that works too) allows you, if you catch the right timing and feel for it, allows you to delay the auto attack from enemies to a certain degree, it is a tactic frequently (and even necessary) used my melee dps which allows them to kill some stuff, which they normally aren't capable to, but it is a tactic that is somewhat frowned upon, since it feels like abusing a bug.

Oh, and

No, I think the community is most definitely elitist, antisocial, and in a constant hurry. They just aren't up front about it. Simple as that.

In case you haven't noticed yourself, FFXIV's community is toxic in its own way, which someone here on the forums put up nicely on his signature, altrough i can't come up with the name. "Toxic Casualism", was it how he called it, a fitting name.

[Vahlnir]

That one, i can explain. Spinning (or kiting, that works too) allows you, if you catch the right timing and feel for it, allows you to delay the auto attack from enemies to a certain degree, it is a tactic frequently (and even necessary) used my melee dps which allows them to kill some stuff, which they normally aren't capable to, but it is a tactic that is somewhat frowned upon, since it feels like abusing a bug.

As a tank, I could see it with large dungeon pulls. But most people just stand there, eat the autos, pop a CD or 2 and dodge the AoEs. I'm one of those people. It is more efficient to take it like a champ and not have any AoEs miss because auto damage is pretty easily mitigated. When it comes to dungeon/raid bosses...it does nothing but upset those playing jobs which require using positionals, so I consider anyone doing so to either be clueless or trolling.

[Anhra]

As a tank, I could see it with large dungeon pulls. But most people just stand there, eat the autos, pop a CD or 2 and dodge the AoEs. I'm one of those people. It is more efficient to take it like a champ and not have any AoEs miss because auto damage is pretty easily mitigated. When it comes to dungeon/raid bosses...it does nothing but upset those playing jobs which require using positionals, so I consider anyone doing so to either be clueless or trolling.

I forgot to mention that this kind of approach is normally just used within deep dungeon solo runs, where you have to pull and fight enemies one by one anyway (on floor 150+).

As for the matter of kiting, i noticed that it helps healers dish out more dps skills or give extra room for healing. For me it works quite well and healers barely need to throw out heals on me (only in dungeon content, by the way)

[Mahoukenshi]

Not really much has changed. Before I took my break in 5.2, I had never a single negative experience (yay me!) during any of my mandatory dungeon/trial runs and in leveling roulette, even if I had effed up the "simplest" choreographical mechanics. This would probably have been different if I had unlocked every optional group content and/or would have played it. Heck, even the majority of my Novice Network time was quite enjoyable. I'm by mmo standards a weirdo, though, and live mostly in my own "micro cosmos" . Most negativity/bittnerness (doesn't matter if "justified" or not) was mostly while browsing this forums; no offense intended.

[Recon1o6]

Back on topic, I've recently noticed a change in my perception of other crafters

Previously I thought fellow omnicrafters like myself were botters, glamoursmiths or tryhards (I'm in the second category because those glams be expensive! also story :3)

Now I have a new category system: Botters, glamoursmiths, gilwhores or lazy

[Quintessa]

Ok Sturm Churro - It really sounds like youre not having fun in the game and generally unhappy. Perhaps maybe take a step away for awhile? I know that I cant play when the fun just isnt there because of a long streak/drought of unpleasant experiences.

Reason I say this is because youre trying to compensate so much. You can only fill so many other people's cups until your own cup runeth over.

[Quintessa]

Ive given up on buying houses.

[A_moth_called_rose]

Starting out:
Oh gosh o hecc I hope I'm not too much of a detrimint being a newbie to this I hope I'm doing everything optimally and up to snuff

Now:
You're all expendable and just tools to my next level up on one of myriads of alt jobs, I'll do the bare essentials to make us not wipe and I'll probably alt tab mid-pull to talk with my friends or click a new youtube vid. Content is so neutered and ez mode outside of savage I can go entire chain pulls off of regen alone. I don't care if you're new, just go run into that pack so we can get this over with and I can go back to requeuing