How has your mindset changed with regards to other players since your started the ga?

[Novae]

I don't know. Savage PF has crushed all the joy and happiness in me. I feel like a very old and empty bunny right now.

[Quintessa]

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We tend to be much harsher on ourselves with performance than outside observers.

[Seoulstar]

This community is not as nice as I thought it was. I have learned that when I first got engaged in the beaten to death healers not dpsing arguments. This community can take the most trivial things and blow it up to something that is not worth getting that upset over to begin with.

[Dogempire]

I don't really expect anyone except me, the people I know, and people with ultimate titles to be competent really.

The only person whose performance is consistent across all my random groups is me, so I just focus on being as competent as possible so even if there's a few baddies I can carry if needed.

[Vahlnir]

This community is not as nice as I thought it was. I have learned that when I first got engaged in the beaten to death healers not dpsing arguments. This community can take the most trivial things and blow it up to something that is not worth getting that upset over to begin with.

Try to bring World of Warcraft up anywhere once, in game or on the forums. I triple dog dare you. If you thought it was bad before...

"But muh precious game!"

"This game is pretty, therefore better!"

"lol if you like WoW so much why don't you go play it instead?"

"WoW sucks, even though I've never played it and my opinion is based on absolutely nothing concrete."

...Just a small taste of how it goes.

This community, overall, is relatively friendly for the most part. But I wouldn't put it up on a pedestal and shout to the heavens about it. It has its own brand of toxicity. Always has, really. Instead of outright hostility it is usually a combination of passive aggressiveness and superiority complexes.

[Barwara]

People take themselves and this game too seriously. It's hilarious really, better take a chill pill.

[Quintessa]

This community is not as nice as I thought it was. I have learned that when I first got engaged in the beaten to death healers not dpsing arguments. This community can take the most trivial things and blow it up to something that is not worth getting that upset over to begin with.

Dont let what you read here have influence on how you feel about the rest of the community. There are nice folks that playand dont approach the game like a masters degree at Harvard.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

We tend to be much harsher on ourselves with performance than outside observers.

While this may be true at least to my own instance, there’s the point where the ‘nice player’-attitude becomes too much to handle & detrimental to players’ overall improvement which are... not nice at all.

Asking for an advice or commentary only to get a “you’re fine!” on the face doesn’t feel good at all. I wasn’t asking for a reassurance. I was asking for a suggestion that may improve my gameplay so I can be a better functioning player in the community & not be a deadweight myself a.k.a. wasting other people’s time. Such replies & the excessive tip-toeing is simply not exactly conducive for improvement.

/playdead

[Mansion]

people with ultimate titles to be competent really.

That's not even a guarantee. You can be an ultimate-clearing DPS and be a terrible healer in a dungeon, or have no clue how to play any other job. I've seen this a lot so I don't have "higher" expectations towards anyone really. And people can have their own reasons for being bad on a specific day or whatever. That's an MMO, you have to show some flexibility on your own side, otherwise you are poisoning yourself if you expect anything from anyone you don't know.

I must admit, I've never had as bad experiences as I see people tell here on the forums. Maybe I don't notice because I don't really care... In most DF content I play as a healer so I don't see notably bad healers (unless I see a pre-pull medica II, that's a clear no-no sign).
I don't use PF anymore, but the last times I did, I was with nice players, quite competent too. I've never seen people actively harrassing people in chat, I've never noticed evil undermining players. I've been around for almost 5 years now.
But I do agree that I see people that are just bad, and it's a bit annoying when you are max level to see people with blatant issues with chore game / job mechanics when you're supposed to have 80 levels worth of experience in the game.

[Vickii]

Try to bring World of Warcraft up anywhere once, in game or on the forums. I triple dog dare you. If you thought it was bad before...

"But muh precious game!"

"This game is pretty, therefore better!"

"lol if you like WoW so much why don't you go play it instead?"

"WoW sucks, even though I've never played it and my opinion is based on absolutely nothing concrete."

...Just a small taste of how it goes.

This community, overall, is relatively friendly for the most part. But I wouldn't put it up on a pedestal and shout to the heavens about it. It has its own brand of toxicity. Always has, really. Instead of outright hostility it is usually a combination of passive aggressiveness and superiority complexes.

I don’t get why people keep bringing WoW up though to be honest. You clearly know the reaction it gets, so why do it?

I’d agree FF14 has a lot of passive agressivness in NN and on forums but for me that’s head and shoulders above some of the stuff I saw in trade chat when playing wow.