How has your mindset changed with regards to other players since your started the ga?

[Goji1639]

I've noticed that in FFXIV people seem more passive aggressive and whiny, whereas other MMO's tend to be bluntly insulting. Not sure which I prefer, honestly.

I've also noticed this community seems far less patient with new players than other MMO's, which is weird for a more casual MMO like this. It might be because of the level synching and specific mechanics, which make it more obvious when someone is playing poorly.

Either way, I don't play this game for it's community. As far as premier MMO's go it's basically between FFXIV and WoW, and, although I think this game has the worst community of the two, I like it's world, visuals, characters, story, etc. better.

Edit: Would actually like to expand on WHY WoW has a better community, at least from what I've seen.

First, I'll point out that I haven't done any Savage or other serious content in this game; so maybe this games raiding scene is less toxic than WoW.

In most casual content however, it's amazing how different the communities are. In WoW, for better or worse, people are generally willing to carry new players through easy content without getting pissy about it. I rarely, if ever saw people taking little cheap shots at struggling players, taking a whiny tone with them, or trying to force them to do things they're not comfortable with.

In this game, however; so much whining. It's like a new player ruined everyone's day if he made the run take 5 minutes longer than it had to. It's all over the forums to, how the community views playing poorly as "disrespectful to the group for wasting their time," lol.

[SpiralMask]

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Personally I disagree: I'd say this game's playerbase is shockingly patient with newbies in this game... provided they have the sprout icon (at least on my server/DC).
once that's gone all bets are off, and I find the returner status is often ignored despite filling a similar role of telegraphing "hey i probably don't know things".

Savage/EX content is an exception since it's hard content for everyone and implies/demands a certain level of preparedness and technical skill, which is why [duty complete] exists to help separate that iirc.

[Goji1639]

Personally I disagree: I'd say this game's playerbase is shockingly patient with newbies in this game... provided they have the sprout icon (at least on my server/DC).
once that's gone all bets are off, though I find the returner status is often ignored despite filling a similar role of telegraphing "hey i probably don't know things".

Savage/EX content is an exception since it's hard content for everyone and implies/demands a certain level of preparedness and technical skill, which is why [duty complete] exists to help separate that iirc.

It's infrequent, but when someone in WoW gets mad it's usually a meltdown, and that can at least be funny.

What this game has is far more frequent instances of people taking snotty little cheap shots at new players, being passive aggressive and just having crappy attitudes in general. Maybe it's just me, but I find that kind of thing way more annoying. From the beginning there's been something about this community I just don't like, and it hasn't changed much over time.