Please allow melee Ranged Attacks to not interrupt/break combos!

[Jonnycbad]

Not much of a deal for NIN because they can now use Ninjutsu on GCDs for parts of fights where they need to be out of range, but for DRG and SAM, letting us use Piercing Talon/Enpi at a distance without interrupting our melee combo would be greatly appreciated. I feel like this affects DRG most of all because DRG combos are 5-GCD long and otherwise Piercing Talon is extremely useless in most fights. Actually, in many fights where PT might be viable, it's more efficient to just use Doom Spike combo because the range is slightly less but still allows for damage at a distance. If you boost Enpi/PT/Throwing Dagger up to say 280-300 potency and let it not break combo, it would be vastly appreciated. Especially for parts of fights that require melees to break off and unable to contribute damage for a time.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It'd be even nicer if they'd make the casts on SAM uninterruptible...


Also, this is a better fit for the dps subsection of the forum, since it fits within a specific category.

[ForteNightshade]

I cannot echo this enough. Just to emphasise the current worthlessness of Piercing Talon. It takes four uses for it to beat Full Thrust. This isn't including the loss you'll suffer for dropping Fang and Claw. Put simply, Piercing Talon may as well be deleted if they aren't going to both buff it and use it without breaking your combo. 300 potency would be a perfect compromise so it's still not pulling ahead of your actual combo but makes disengagement not nearly as punishing.

[Ultimatecalibur]

A possibly better solution would to be give each melee dps a ranged combo with DoT/buff maintenance effects as part of the combo bonus.

[Esmoire]

This is how it works in PvP, and it's awesome. It doesn't break your combo and typically builds your resource or refreshes your buffs. The overall DPS is lacking still, so melee and tank still want to get onto the enemy to perform. Of course, it has to be competitive because FL and RW kind of has a lot of situations where everyone kind of assumes a ranged DPS role, though I think a lot of the general game feel principles can still apply.

IMO this should be done for PvE. It should at least add time to your buffs and not break your combos. It just makes the combat feel more engaging if you are encouraged to interact with the enemy more frequently with effective APM. In addition, in general I feel like if we are going to give the player a button, it should feel awesome and more useful. Some fights melee/tanks will basically have 100% uptime sans transitions so it won't matter, but for those where you need to disengage, that option will seem a lot more attractive than losing a GCD or two across the fight.

[ForteNightshade]

A possibly better solution would to be give each melee dps a ranged combo with DoT/buff maintenance effects as part of the combo bonus.

That would only exacerbate the problem. Only a very select few fights warrant enough downtime a full three tier combo would ever be used. And since you'd still be breaking the single target variant, it'd essentially be the same problem but now with unnecessary button bloat. There is no need to add one or two more buttons to what is intended to be a very situational occurrence. Simply buffing the Melee range abilities and making them no longer break your combo solves the problem.

[kunoz]

ok but what about monk tho, yall be havin' long range melee attacks for short downtime and we aint got nothin' fam

[Esmoire]

ok but what about monk tho, yall be havin' long range melee attacks for short downtime and we aint got nothin' fam

While being a melee purist has its charms, I'd love if monk was given a Geese Howard hand energy wave thing next expansion.



Firing energy projectiles out of your hands is kind of just part of the fantasy side of martial arts so it seems like a natural fit. They kind of realized that when they added Enlightenment, though that's more an AOE competitor with Forbidden Chakra and the niche of a GCD ranged attack is still open.

[Lihtleita]

*laughs in mnk*

[Jonnycbad]

They could add a ranged attack for monk that consumes 1 Chakra per use as opposed to forbidden Chakra that costs all 5