Thread: The potential problem with low level Roulettes in 6.0

Originally Posted by PyurBlue

Skill durations aren't changing, the longer duration comes from the PLD having more defense skills than GLA. PLD with halved or thirded effectiveness Rampart, Sentinel, Sheltron vs GLA with normal Rampart for example.

Your clarification here makes what you said previously make more sense in terms of the duration - the way I read it before it sounded like you were meaning the duration of all skills when combined, but rather on a per skill basis.

That being said - I still don't think it would feel good to play, assuming I'm understanding your suggestion here, that when playing on Paladin and being below a certain level, the damage reduction amount would be reduced to account for having more skills to use versus a Gladiator?

So Paladin would have Rampart, Sentinel, etc., which would last the same length, but do less damage reduction (like 10%, 15% below a certain level? And Gladiator's would do the normal intended amount, also at the same duration?

So assuming that is the correct interpretation...you still have the issue that you're asking the Paladin to play differently to survive the same packs...as it's ultimately the duration of the cooldown is only a portion of the consideration of when to use it, and honestly it's not at all the main consideration. Rampart is ultimately used not because it has a 20 second duration, but because it has a 20% damage reduction - that's the case in a trash pull and versus a tank buster. Most trash pulls at lower levels aren't going to benefit from being able to use more cooldowns in succession.

Instead it would almost certainly result in the Paladin feeling like they need to stack those cooldowns to achieve the same or similar damage reduction they had when they were lower level or they would feel squishier as a tank than the tank that comes in as a Gladiator with just a couple that do their intended full amount...which would still result in a different in how the job is played at higher levels, when the defensive cooldowns do their intended amount. You still end up introducing variations in how the job plays that make going into lower level content as a higher level player feel less good.

Your assumption that, in a same size pull, a Gladiator with a 20% Rampart and a numbers-synced Paladin with a 10% Rampart are both only go to press Rampart is faulty. The Paladin is, almost certainly, going to press an additional skill alongside that Rampart so they feel like the pull is like it was a Gladiator with a 20% Rampart.

That doesn't sound like it would be much fun to deal with, even if (again) the numbers look good on paper. I'd be having to press more buttons for the same effect, just because I'm a higher level going into a lower level dungeon.

In what gaming world does that sound fun?