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  1. #11
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    GrumbleBeard's Avatar
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    Severa Nanase
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    Jenova
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    Sage Lv 90
    If they remove rescue, I would like an ability that pushes a friendly player away 30y away from you.
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  2. #12
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    Packetdancer's Avatar
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleBeard View Post
    If they remove rescue, I would like an ability that pushes a friendly player away 30y away from you.


    (I realize this joke tooltip is like a month and a half old, but there will never be a better post to share it in.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

  3. #13
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    Aah, I see. So it'd work for situations like Titan where the arena itself shrinks, or the final boss of a certain level 80 dungeon (which I won't name in order to spare any sprouts who aren't into Shadowbringers yet the potential spoiler) with the crumbling platforms. Or E3[N|S]. Basically, places where it isn't (necessarily) a knockback over the edge that kills you, but even just the disappearance of what you're standing on.

    I like that. It still probably requires you to see that someone's about to fall prey to that and put Float on them before they're yeeted into the Space Where We Were Not Meant To Go, but that's not really any different than those moments when you actually manage to yoink someone back up onto the arena when they fall off the edge by hitting Rescue just before they fall.
    Also it would work for Lakshmi for those party members who forget to use their vril for the knockback. There are probably other situations too. And maybe Float is party-wide so you don't have to see it, target the person, then react.
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  4. #14
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Fluid Aura except it works on party members.
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  5. #15
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    I'd just fix Rescue's slow response time since the ability itself is fine. Repose though, now that's a useless button. It was niche enough as a WHM-only spell but turned into a role action for literally no reason other than taking away another WHM action and share it with the other healers. Just wait till 6.0 when Thin Air also becomes a role action, I can bet my small plot on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    This would be a godsend for the times people confuse the red diamond thingy with stack markers
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    Last edited by Allegor; 06-20-2020 at 05:24 AM.

  6. #16
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Probably would say don't replace it.

    Rather if were talking healers I'd like to see fluid aura be adjusted somehow lol (or repose as mentioned above). Like I think it's vaguely neat when you first get it but also then quickly dies out in use and is generally just a nuisance to the group needs, it needs some more flash and value. Perhaps it creates a .. fluid.. .. aura.. (lol) around the healer such that it reduces damage the healer takes from all sources up to x potency (stoneskin like) and knocks back any enemy, a short distance, that melee attacks the healer and binds them for like 1 or 2 seconds. I think that'd be pretty neat and add value into content that it normally never would have a use, like using fluid aura to reduce incoming raid damage to their self only. Could have an extra mechanic that reduces cooldown, that'll be decently long normally, for each auto attack they receive meaning it comes around more often in the wild or if the dungeon is going horribly wrong lol.

    But for giggles, on mutating rescue into a different skill at least for higher level of play it might work:

    You could say rescue creates a lifeline radius at target on the ground that decreases a single non-auto attack damage source so long as you're not the target of the boss in the area it is cast at for a decent duration like 5 to 10 seconds (behaves like a target spell still, the special marker will change slightly once the damage reduction is used up but will remain for the duration for the other part of the spell's effect), if you jump at said location while the spell is active it'll yoink you to the healer that cast it- which then creates a reverse portal at that feet of the healer that the player can double jump on to be ported directly back to where they were (lasts like 5 seconds after the first portal is used). Reason for that target part of the spell is to prevent people from using it on main tanks during boss fights as a shield, and the single instance of damage to increase the chance even further the spell is used as it was intended rather than a proactive shield and hardly ever actually for the porting mechanic, because that defeats the whole skill's original intent of movement and will turn it into another defensive skill. Obviously it kind of still kills the skill for players who didn't know if they jump they'll get pulled (or aren't paying attention and so the healer was trying to help)... buuuuutt.... I think it would still have some value (shield so even if they get hit at least it's less, and for those paying attention no damage then), and at higher levels of play might be better even.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 06-20-2020 at 05:29 AM.

  7. #17
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    Genz's Avatar
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    Genz Kawakami
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    Louisoix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Since the idea behind Rescue was certainly "to save another player", if it has to be replaced it should be by an ability that give a big damage resistance + status effect/knockback immunity.
    Like Rescue, of course, it'd be mono-target, and cannot be used on self. And it would have no effect on hard enrage/auto wipe.

    As an aside, healers need more "protection" skills. Especially on Whm, we just have too many "restore hp" skills with very small differences.

    And, but that'd be totally alien for FFXIV, all jobs should have some use in saving a dire situation. DPS are generally horribly pathetic when a battle begins to fail.
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    Last edited by Genz; 06-20-2020 at 05:50 AM.

  8. #18
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    Darkobra Kage
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    Phoenix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    One that pushes them INTO danger since one guy's feelings got hurt that he had to get rescued because of his low skill level.
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  9. #19
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    As far as a new healer tool, maybe Float? Something that will pull a party member back onto a platform if they would fall off?
    As soon as they implement something like this, they will just gradually remove instadeath falls from fights and replace them with instadeath walls, ala Coil 5/9/13 and whatnot.
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  10. #20
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    "What would you replace Rescue with?"
    Hmm. One of the last abilities that gives healers any kind of engagement, requires a lot of attention to execute correctly, and can potentially save a player, and even the entire raid?

    That IS a really good question. I'm going to go grab my chicken wings and some kind of iced mocha coffee.

    I will say this in the meantime; I was originally joking about having the complimentary 'push' ability as well, but now I'm actually kind of thinking about it.
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