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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Rescue isn't a pointless skill. It's a very useful skill - especially in PvP where it proves invaluable at rescuing a player who is trapped in the middle of a group of enemies. It has plenty of uses in PvE as well, of course. A tiny minority of players abusing the skill does not mean it needs to be removed from the game. Though given how a portion of the FFXIV community operates, I'm not surprised that small, rare inconveniences are considered to be worthy of disproportionate retribution.

    More relevant to this topic itself, I'm in the camp where I'd like more direct engagement from our community representatives as well as deleted posts being accompanied by a message for everybody to see that shows why it was deleted. In the case of those deleted by a moderator, at any rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Rescue isn't a pointless skill. It's a very useful skill - especially in PvP where it proves invaluable at rescuing a player who is trapped in the middle of a group of enemies. It has plenty of uses in PvE as well, of course. A tiny minority of players abusing the skill does not mean it needs to be removed from the game. Though given how a portion of the FFXIV community operates, I'm not surprised that small, rare inconveniences are considered to be worthy of disproportionate retribution.

    More relevant to this topic itself, I'm in the camp where I'd like more direct engagement from our community representatives as well as deleted posts being accompanied by a message for everybody to see that shows why it was deleted. In the case of those deleted by a moderator, at any rate.
    Pretty much. I got sastasha on an alt last night as gladiator. The healer let me die 5 times. FIVE. They had enough time to annoy people with rescue and spam stone 2 though, and swift ast raise me after each death.


    My favorite was dying to 2 trash mobs......


    I asked them to heal more and they replied with "nah" so I guess this means we need to remove healer dps abilities, according to some people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Pretty much. I got sastasha on an alt last night as gladiator. The healer let me die 5 times. FIVE. They had enough time to annoy people with rescue and spam stone 2 though, and swift ast raise me after each death.


    My favorite was dying to 2 trash mobs......


    I asked them to heal more and they replied with "nah" so I guess this means we need to remove healer dps abilities, according to some people.
    You literally can't win. If you are DPSing as a healer you get told off. If you don't DPS you get told off.

    I get told all the time I'm "not doing your job"... no I'm just not trying to overheal.. They don't see that cure cast as a whm you aren't healing, apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    You literally can't win. If you are DPSing as a healer you get told off. If you don't DPS you get told off.

    I get told all the time I'm "not doing your job"... no I'm just not trying to overheal.. They don't see that cure cast as a whm you aren't healing, apparently.
    Healers dpsing isn't the problem.. I died to 2 mobs in sastasha.

    The healer was lvl 54. I was lvl 17. The healer simply wasn't healing. For no reason should a tank die to 2 trash mobs.
    I died to trash mobs 5 times in that run. I popped cds, I avoided AoEs. I'm not a new tank. I've been tanking for 7 years. I've tanked with healers who dps the entire runs but can still keep the tank alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Healers dpsing isn't the problem.. I died to 2 mobs in sastasha.

    The healer was lvl 54. I was lvl 17. The healer simply wasn't healing. For no reason should a tank die to 2 trash mobs.
    I died to trash mobs 5 times in that run. I popped cds, I avoided AoEs. I'm not a new tank. I've been tanking for 7 years. I've tanked with healers who dps the entire runs but can still keep the tank alive.
    I've died tanking in sastasha too. It doesn't even matter what level the healer is, they could be a mentor with all classes to 80 and still let you die. Nothing new here.

    Clarify, I am talking in general. Your situation, where they say "nah" they were probably just trolling.
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