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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Rescue isn't a pointless skill. It's a very useful skill - especially in PvP where it proves invaluable at rescuing a player who is trapped in the middle of a group of enemies. It has plenty of uses in PvE as well, of course. A tiny minority of players abusing the skill does not mean it needs to be removed from the game. Though given how a portion of the FFXIV community operates, I'm not surprised that small, rare inconveniences are considered to be worthy of disproportionate retribution.

    More relevant to this topic itself, I'm in the camp where I'd like more direct engagement from our community representatives as well as deleted posts being accompanied by a message for everybody to see that shows why it was deleted. In the case of those deleted by a moderator, at any rate.
    Pretty much. I got sastasha on an alt last night as gladiator. The healer let me die 5 times. FIVE. They had enough time to annoy people with rescue and spam stone 2 though, and swift ast raise me after each death.


    My favorite was dying to 2 trash mobs......


    I asked them to heal more and they replied with "nah" so I guess this means we need to remove healer dps abilities, according to some people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Pretty much. I got sastasha on an alt last night as gladiator. The healer let me die 5 times. FIVE. They had enough time to annoy people with rescue and spam stone 2 though, and swift ast raise me after each death.


    My favorite was dying to 2 trash mobs......


    I asked them to heal more and they replied with "nah" so I guess this means we need to remove healer dps abilities, according to some people.
    You literally can't win. If you are DPSing as a healer you get told off. If you don't DPS you get told off.

    I get told all the time I'm "not doing your job"... no I'm just not trying to overheal.. They don't see that cure cast as a whm you aren't healing, apparently.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 06-18-2020 at 02:07 PM.
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    It feels that way with tanking, especially now with what's being discussed.

    My first death came as a result of dying to the first pack of The Sunken Temple. Healer had this purple gear with big horns sticking out. Any healer I see wearing that now will worry me.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    You literally can't win. If you are DPSing as a healer you get told off. If you don't DPS you get told off.

    I get told all the time I'm "not doing your job"... no I'm just not trying to overheal.. They don't see that cure cast as a whm you aren't healing, apparently.
    Healers dpsing isn't the problem.. I died to 2 mobs in sastasha.

    The healer was lvl 54. I was lvl 17. The healer simply wasn't healing. For no reason should a tank die to 2 trash mobs.
    I died to trash mobs 5 times in that run. I popped cds, I avoided AoEs. I'm not a new tank. I've been tanking for 7 years. I've tanked with healers who dps the entire runs but can still keep the tank alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Healers dpsing isn't the problem.. I died to 2 mobs in sastasha.

    The healer was lvl 54. I was lvl 17. The healer simply wasn't healing. For no reason should a tank die to 2 trash mobs.
    I died to trash mobs 5 times in that run. I popped cds, I avoided AoEs. I'm not a new tank. I've been tanking for 7 years. I've tanked with healers who dps the entire runs but can still keep the tank alive.
    I've died tanking in sastasha too. It doesn't even matter what level the healer is, they could be a mentor with all classes to 80 and still let you die. Nothing new here.

    Clarify, I am talking in general. Your situation, where they say "nah" they were probably just trolling.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 06-18-2020 at 02:55 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    They'll delete this post but not the one of the guy who literally wants all healers to die just because one used rescue on him to pull more.
    On the contrary, they deleted it along with mine where I chewed him out for it as I had quoted him lol.
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    Last edited by Quintessa; 06-20-2020 at 11:35 PM. Reason: grammarzzzz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Uh... letting them die within the game is not the context that the average person would assume from the phrase "X wants all [thing X hates]s to die".
    Yeah I was super confused for a second, I was like... I don't remember them saying they wanted anyone to actually die either ???? Ooopf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    Yeah I was super confused for a second, I was like... I don't remember them saying they wanted anyone to actually die either ???? Ooopf
    Yeah, the specific context was that healers were using it to troll by rescuing people into certain death situations sacrificing themself to do it. The request was to figure out a way so that if it was used like this to have the target of the rescue not die, but the healer still sacrifice themself as a punishment of sorts for trying to troll. Something like having the game not actually execute the rescue if it was done into a telegraph or a section of the arena that was about to disappear or something was the idea I think.

    I got the impression that he was not very good at expressing his ideas in a cohesive way, but he definitely wasn't calling for any players behind the characters to die.
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    He hasn't been around since then so I think the mods paid him a visit :x.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintessa View Post
    He hasn't been around since then so I think the mods paid him a visit :x.
    Who, OP? They rarely reply to threads they make. I think they almost use the forum like a blog.


    You can tell when someone gets gm visit because the medals under their name disappear.
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