Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
I hate summoner
PvP summoner has no summons, it’s like Scholar without their Fairy...bad example
We had that, there's a reason we don't anymore. If you move with bahamut/phoenix in PvE, you lose a lot of damage from dropped SFs/WWs or have issues with damage ghosting. Same reason Scholars lost fairies and seraph. That was why Firebird Trance has no Phoenix in PvE but you still keep the damage actions (minus revalation since Brand/FoF are very strong). It's also why I didn't play Summoner a lot in 4.x, the job was strong... if Bahamut casted akh morn if you wanted it to. You could be in line of a target but if Bahamut isn't, and often wasn't, you'd randomly see Akh Morn go off like 5 seconds later, or not at all. In a burst orientated PvP mode like Feast especially when you need to kite, it was a nightmare.

Taking egi/demi bloat in Frontlines out of the equation; and that is the primary reason why just about any PvP summoner player rejoiced at losing controllable pets. I miss having Garuda/Ifrit in PvP, a lot. I miss enkindle. But Bahamut being removed was probably the best thing to ever happen to the job in PvP, because it allowed for the damage to be redistributed elsewhere to the job and now it is far more reliable to play.