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  1. #11
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    Saccharin's Avatar
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    Blue Kitty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    Housing was always intended to be a free company thing with apartments being for individuals. As the apartment system was only partially implemented, they allowed individuals to buy a home. At that time, houses were crazy expensive but that changed over time. I agree that the system needs to be reworked but anything significant will cause more drama than it’s worth for the devs.
    No, Free Companies were supposed to have separate wards than individuals.

    Apartments were a band aid when they realised not everyone who wanted one could get even a small house.
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  2. #12
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    Eldevern's Avatar
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    Housing was always intended to be a free company thing with apartments being for individuals. As the apartment system was only partially implemented, they allowed individuals to buy a home. At that time, houses were crazy expensive but that changed over time. I agree that the system needs to be reworked but anything significant will cause more drama than it’s worth for the devs.
    Just a little mistake fix : They opened to individuals before the release of apartments. A lot of plots were still available even after the price drop (I bought a mansion, on Cerberus, at 35M when we were still told we would not lose houses ).

    But I can confirm, at that time, initially, Y-P was speaking about housing wards as built for FCs.

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    Honestly, when I consider FFXIV and the technology on which the game is based, the overhaul needed makes me think a brand new MMO would be easier, more efficient, cheaper and somehow, more interesting, than a n-patch on a patch. This said without illusion. I don't expect any worthy brand new MMORPG before 2023 or even 2025.
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 06-13-2020 at 03:40 AM.
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  3. #13
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    Ea Sin
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    The dresser has 400 slots x_x. Do you need 20,000 slots?
    To add to what's already been said. Just take AF gear alone. There are at least 3 sets for almost all DoW classes (minus blu/dnc/gnb that have 2 iirc) so that's 3x(5x15) + 3x(5x2) = 255. Lets say that in addition to this you have at least one weapon per job +19. Now add relics, lets say you aren't crazy and get maybe 3-4 per expansion, each of those have 2-3 variations you enjoy. That's an added 18-36 slots.
    Ok now lets turn towards our crafters and gatherers. Lets say we aren't that big on glam for these so we have maybe 2 gathering clams and 3-4 crafter glams that's an added 25-30 items. We want nice tools for our DoH/DoL but we don't care for secondary tool, that's an added 11 slots.

    We're already at a grand total 328-351 slots.
    There are 11 equitable slots so that leaves you with enough room for ~4 extra items per slot and I still haven't talked about:
    - ANY accessories
    - Mogstation items
    - Raiding gear
    - Dungeon gear
    - Crafted gear glam for DoW
    - Deep dungeon weapons
    - Ultimate weapons (~47)
    - People who farm all relics (~42 base ones, each have at least 5 steps)
    - Relic gear
    - Tombstone gear
    - etc.

    Keep in mind at this point we don't even have ANY custom glam gear for our DoW, just the AF gear. 400 is so little. It should be doubled at least even though I would settle for 200 more slots. The feature is behind one expansion in terms of available slots.
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    Last edited by EaMett; 06-13-2020 at 01:05 AM.

  4. #14
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    Vierys Night
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    There are a lot of things that need attention. The ability to clutter your yard is low on the list for me.

    IRL, we all have pretty much nothing but grass, so I don't understand the immediate need to have more exterior housing slots when we could really use more interior slots and instanced housing in general.
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  5. #15
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by HadesNight View Post
    There are a lot of things that need attention. The ability to clutter your yard is low on the list for me.

    IRL, we all have pretty much nothing but grass, so I don't understand the immediate need to have more exterior housing slots when we could really use more interior slots and instanced housing in general.
    You live in a strange neighborhood if everyone's yard consists of a lawn and only a lawn, no pathways, no trees, no shrubs, no flowers, no furniture. Or it's one with a ridiculously restrictive HoA that any sensible person would avoid.

    If you feel a lawn is sufficient decoration for a space, then an increase to the interior item limit is needed even less than an increase to the exterior limit. Item to ground space ratio is still a lot better for interiors than it is for exteriors. The outdoor ground space for my FC's mansion is bigger than the total interior floor space of a small house and yet we're limited to 40 items instead of 200. But I get that's a technical issue since each house interior is instanced separately while each house exterior is one of several contributing to overall decoration in a ward.

    We don't need more instanced housing in terms of quantity. I can hop onto any world and find lots of available apartments (even Gilgamesh and Balmung had plenty when I checked a couple of weeks ago). What we need is more variety options to choose from when it comes to instanced housing. 4 different default wall/ceiling combinations doesn't amount to much choice when otherwise they're all still the same 3 x 4 "panel" rectangular room and we have to blow a significant portion of our item limit to make their shape appear different. Being able to choose an apartment size would be a big step forward.
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  6. #16
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    The sad thing is they talked about small, medium and large apartments and that they were looking at possibly implementing them as an option but nothing since 4.2 housing release. Multiple rooms, duplex apartments with two floors and so on would be wonderful additions and makes lots of people happy.
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  7. #17
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I would love to see this as I ended up in pretty much the exact same place as the OP recently. I had a pretty good idea for my yard but would have run out of slots even if I pared it back to just the necessary bits. I'm not talking massively overboard but I'd be at most 5 slots over the max so I just ended up scrapping the whole thing.

    Sure it's not a big deal for everyone, even everyone who does have a house, but it would be a nice tweak for those of us who do.
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  8. #18
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    The dresser has 400 slots x_x. Do you need 20,000 slots?
    Yes, or a better system.
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  9. #19
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    Anesuto Naito
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    The dresser has 400 slots x_x. Do you need 20,000 slots?
    400 isn't enough to be honest considering new gear/wear come out every few months in various dungeons/PVP/raids/crafting/Mogstation.

    Sadly some items cannot be placed in Armoire either. Like the mogtome items or newer glam items bought from mogstation.
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  10. #20
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    Khit Amariyo
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    While normally I might say "ugh, that could become such a performance hit given that yards are not instanced like interiors"... the limit leaves me one slot short of what I want to do in my yard. So right now, I sort of feel this. :/
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