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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    My theory is that they realized there was too many main-Scions and decided to cut some out at the end of 2.x. >w>
    There is always going to be a little bit of that. Due to the On-going nature of FFXIV story with so many characters, in order to keep the story coherent, only so many characters can be focused on at a time. Heavensward for example already had a pretty focused story on cast in Ishgard, if the entire Scion crew had remained part of HW's story, the entire thing would have become bloated and unfocused very quickly.

    Though I doubt that was there reason for having Yda dead and Lyse being the current Yda. If they wanted Yda to leave the scions and support Ala Mhigo at the end of the story they could have found a way to make it work. However, it does explain why Y'shtola was injured early on and why Thancred spent most of the story doing off screen work during the initial Stormblood main scenario.
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    To be honest, I don't think they knew what they were doing with the character. Just look at the prominence of Lyse and Fordola have on the poster and then remember just how important they were to the story. Lyse ended up very little character growth and was just shoved out of the main story in the end and Fordola never had a conclusion to her story in the game. 2 of the biggest characters in the poster end up having stories that pretty much went nowhere. Yotsuyu ended up getting way more development.

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    Fordola had a conclusion. It just came in later patches and wasn't tied up with a nice little bow on it like many other story conclusions.
    She was redeemed, albeit not absolved, and finally overcame her personal demon of starting down the path to self-forgiveness. The saying, "every ending is a new beginning" has relevance here albeit with a twist to its usual meaning.
    Her main purpose, however, wasn't her own story arc which is why they didn't bother to tie it up nicely. It was to provide the main foil for Lyse and to make Lyse question herself and her beliefs when they sometimes matched. They both came from similar pasts, but ended up on opposite sides of almost everything but had striking similarities that Lyse couldn't help but recognize in herself.

    To compare: Yotsuyu had two conclusions, one in the original story and one in the later patches. Both of hers had a neat little bow on them, but SE just chose to unwrap Yotsuyu's tidy package one more time and give it a new, darker bow to wrap it up with. She was a foil to Lyse in some ways, but her purpose was more as the main villain for the expansion that is also self-contained to that expansion. Hence the neat little bows.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 06-16-2020 at 07:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    She was redeemed, albeit not absolved, and finally overcame her personal demon of starting down the path to self-forgiveness. The saying, "every ending is a new beginning" has relevance here albeit with a twist to its usual meaning.
    As far as I remember, she's rotting in a prison cell and that's where the story leaves her, with many who still want to lynch her. That's not much of a redemption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    As far as I remember, she's rotting in a prison cell and that's where the story leaves her, with many who still want to lynch her. That's not much of a redemption.
    Redemption doesn't have to be public or even acknowledged. It can happen on a personal level. Lyse knows, and that's a significant part of their journeys as foils. I also personally like that Fordola was left as a flawed character without a clear cut ending. It makes her more interesting and the story far more nuanced than if she had been killed off or absolved.

    Also, way to bypass the spoiler tags I put up around that.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 06-16-2020 at 08:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    As far as I remember, she's rotting in a prison cell and that's where the story leaves her, with many who still want to lynch her. That's not much of a redemption.
    someone hasn't gotten their summoner to level 80 i see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    As far as I remember, she's rotting in a prison cell and that's where the story leaves her, with many who still want to lynch her. That's not much of a redemption.
    Tales from the Storm and the LV80 SMN quest give continuation to her story. Not every important story arc takes place in the MSQ, even if the characters started there - and she still might eventually reappear with these side stories just filling in the gaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Tales from the Storm and the LV80 SMN quest give continuation to her story. Not every important story arc takes place in the MSQ, even if the characters started there - and she still might eventually reappear with these side stories just filling in the gaps.
    Yes I know that's she in the side content, but again, look where she is on the poster. She's the 2nd biggest person on the poster in a prominent position and she's been shuffled away into outside content and a job story. That speaks to me of bad planning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Yes I know that's she in the side content, but again, look where she is on the poster. She's the 2nd biggest person on the poster in a prominent position and she's been shuffled away into outside content and a job story. That speaks to me of bad planning.
    Frankly, the prominence of the characters on the poster only really speak to their presence in the initial story that is released at the beginning of the expansion and little else. Given that she was mostly a Foil to Lyse in a story sense during Stormblood and Lyse's own prominence in the story faded into the background it's not surprising that Fordola did as well. As Stormblood after 4.1 focused mostly on events in Doma and setting up the plot elements for Shadowbringers ending the Ala Mhigo resolutions fairly early on.

    However, the fact that Fordola's is still alive means she has the capability to be brought back to the story to serve a different purpose at some point if the writers choose to do so.
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    archbishop thordan was at the top of the HW poster and he's dead. so much for your theory lol
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