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    Quote Originally Posted by Controller View Post
    Wouldn't that just be kindof silly then? I want to see people's hotbars now. Cause with how mine are set up I don't see any issues. I end up putting extra stuff on my bars like the teleport and glamour thing cause there are so few buttons by default. Like ...I have a whole set of emotes on crossbar 8 right and left.
    So you're against reducing buttons so they continue to needlessly prune skills to put new actions in? That's my whole objective: Reduce the needless bloat so there's space for more actions without having to have existing ones needless removed. SE likes to keep the button total to like 23-26ish or so buttons for everything, so by taking a basic 123 combo and making it 1 button that frees up 2 more button spaces for stuff they can implement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    So you're against reducing buttons so they continue to needlessly prune skills to put new actions in? That's my whole objective: Reduce the needless bloat so there's space for more actions without having to have existing ones needless removed. SE likes to keep the button total to like 23-26ish or so buttons for everything, so by taking a basic 123 combo and making it 1 button that frees up 2 more button spaces for stuff they can implement.
    I'm not against them freeing up space, I just don't want the GF combo to be changed either. :c
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    Quote Originally Posted by Controller View Post
    I'm not against them freeing up space, I just don't want the GF combo to be changed either. :c
    But it wouldn't be changed? it would just be 1-4-1-4-1-4 instead of 1-4-2-4-3-4. Same combo and everything. Just GF combo in 1 button and Continuation as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    But it wouldn't be changed? it would just be 1-4-1-4-1-4 instead of 1-4-2-4-3-4. Same combo and everything. Just GF combo in 1 button and Continuation as it is.
    I don't know what means, as one I am on PS4 so those numbers look like kanj from 900 BC D: Second it'll def be changed since you'll be taking 2 buttons away. It'll be different for sure. But that's hair pulling.. what I want to know is are people running out of space? Like I mention before I have lots of free space as gun breaker doesn't even have that many skills as is. I just don't want the classes to lose even more stuff. Sch, monk, ninja, and mch to name a few. Mch most def has so little buttons it's insane. But I'm saying this as like I said, I have what seems like tons of space. But I'm also on controller and PS4. So my question is are you PC players running out of space?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Controller View Post
    I don't know what means, as one I am on PS4 so those numbers look like kanj from 900 BC D:
    1-2-3 is short hand for describing the standard gcd combo system used by most classes and jobs of the game. 1 is the action that is uneffected by the action performed before it, 2 is the action that get its combo bonus from following action 1 and 3 is a action that gets its combo bonus for following 2. A majority of the non-caster classes and jobs (along with Red Mage) use variations of this system to perform their weaponskill combos.

    For Gunbreaker the basic single target combo is:
    1. Keen Edge
    2. Brutal Shell
    3. Solid Barrel

    While the Cartridge/Continuation combo is:
    1. Jugular Rip
    2. Abdomen Tear
    3. Eye Gouge

    Second it'll def be changed since you'll be taking 2 buttons away. It'll be different for sure. But that's hair pulling..
    Not really. The combos would still be Keen Edge -> Brutal Shell -> Solid Barrel and Jugular Rip -> Abdomen Tear -> Eye Gouge.

    what I want to know is are people running out of space? Like I mention before I have lots of free space as gun breaker doesn't even have that many skills as is. I just don't want the classes to lose even more stuff. Sch, monk, ninja, and mch to name a few. Mch most def has so little buttons it's insane. But I'm saying this as like I said, I have what seems like tons of space. But I'm also on controller and PS4. So my question is are you PC players running out of space?
    Are you certain you are including all your abilities (including role actions) on your hotbars? Gunbreaker has 32 buttons (25 job abilities and 7 role actions) at level 80 not including general actions such as mount, sprint, teleport and limit break. The basic controller Hotbar set has 16 buttons while the expanded can hold up to 32 without changing to another hotbar set.
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    Last edited by Ultimatecalibur; 06-14-2020 at 04:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    1-2-3 is short hand for describing the standard gcd combo system used by most classes and jobs of the game. 1 is the action that is uneffected by the action performed before it, 2 is the action that get its combo bonus from following action 1 and 3 is a action that gets its combo bonus for following 2. A majority of the non-caster classes and jobs (along with Red Mage) use variations of this system to perform their weaponskill combos.

    For Gunbreaker the basic single target combo is:
    1. Keen Edge
    2. Brutal Shell
    3. Solid Barrel

    While the Cartridge/Continuation combo is:
    1. Jugular Rip
    2. Abdomen Tear
    3. Eye Gouge



    Not really. The combos would still be Keen Edge -> Brutal Shell -> Solid Barrel and Jugular Rip -> Abdomen Tear -> Eye Gouge.



    Are you certain you are including all your abilities (including role actions) on your hotbars? Gunbreaker has 32 buttons (25 job abilities and 7 role actions) at level 80 not including general actions such as mount, sprint, teleport and limit break. The basic controller Hotbar set has 16 buttons while the expanded can hold up to 32 without changing to another hotbar set.
    I'mma show my hotbar in a following post, as it might explain what I mean more. Tho I think I might just be overseeing the issue. As I'll be honest.. it doesn't feel like 32 actions on mine. So I think you might be right. IT feels so basic when I play tho. Let me get my pictures in here so you can see.

    Linking the pics.






    THe first image at the top is the first cross bar/ default. Without holding L2 or R2. As you can see I have both the standard combo and the GF combo on that bar. I work my rotations in a clock like fashion so it's easier to remember. The second image is me holding down L2 and R2 I believe and I switch to R2 and L2 when I want to hit either left or right as the images show. The last one is just showing how many crossbars I'm even using for the job and it's only cross bar 1 and 2. Cross bar 8 is my emote bar. So that is why I was saying I have tons of space for more moves.

    Now I'm sure you'll noticed the PC like hotbars above them. I added extra moves there... but that never seemed like alot to me still. But I don't play KB and mouse so this is me asking.. with those PC bars above the controller ones I use. Is that alot of moves? Cause on controller it doesn't feel like alot to me at all.
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    Last edited by Controller; 06-15-2020 at 02:30 AM.