Combining some buttons into one

[Limonia]

If it wouldn't work for Dream Within a Dream / Assassinate, why does it work for Geirskogul / Nastrond or Earthly Star?

Actually, this is another reason why I created this topic. I want to know why it's seemingly technically possible to combine some oGCDs into one button, but not others.

As far as I understood what was said was if Dream/Assassinate would be combined, and you would press Dream while lagging, it could automatically register as if you want to do Assassinate as well, so you would use 2 instead of 1 oGCD and thus clip your GCD. Or did you mean something else?

[Tsaranoga]

They won't do it, because it gives the "hardcore" player the illusion of complexity, which does not exist. Some feel good "i succeeded in this hard to pull of combo". Now that's hilarious. You just press the same buttons, there is nothing to "pull off". without an actual combat system which requires you to do something more than run in circles, there can be no complexity, you can't even call this a combat system.

[SomeRandomHuman]

They won't do it, because it gives the "hardcore" player the illusion of complexity, which does not exist. Some feel good "i succeeded in this hard to pull of combo". Now that's hilarious. You just press the same buttons, there is nothing to "pull off". without an actual combat system which requires you to do something more than run in circles, there can be no complexity, you can't even call this a combat system.

No one said this was about complexity. This is just about decluttering everyone's hotbars and potentially allowing for each job to have more actions within the same amount of buttons the dev team likes to keep to.

[Jkap_Goat]

RDM rapier action buttons should be into one, it already is in PVP, i dont see why not in PvE,

[SamRF]

They won't do it, because it gives the "hardcore" player the illusion of complexity, which does not exist. Some feel good "i succeeded in this hard to pull of combo". Now that's hilarious. You just press the same buttons, there is nothing to "pull off". without an actual combat system which requires you to do something more than run in circles, there can be no complexity, you can't even call this a combat system.

Having more buttons is actually less complex than condensing combos into one button. When all actions have their own clear function it's easier to grasp your (optimal) rotation. It's why I prefer to have them seperate. If they were to ever combine combos into one button they should imo still make it possible to have them seperate anyway, trough macros or something (without input lag..).

[gumas]

some of this "merge into 1 button" button is actually available if you play the pvp. so that mean for some reason yoshi decide to make the pve button stay like that for some reason.

maybe for complexity filter i guess, i mean if they merge many of function into 1 button (1-2-3 combo into 1 etc) it probably going to look weird, what kind of mmorpg that you can play with only 1 hotbar (10 buttons) lol

[Zukissa]

It might happen and then somebody else would say why not have seperate buttons for it.

[Tint]

It might happen and then somebody else would say why not have seperate buttons for it.

Then I'll say he can just place the button two times on his hotbar. It's what I am doing with my combos in PvP, so I can play how I am used to.

[Stanelis]

No please no. Jobs are dumb enough to play already.

Jobs are dumbs because most buttons you press actually do the same thing with different spell skins due to the lack of depths of the battle system, eg a DPS ability will be a DPS ability, a healing ability will be a healing ability and a mitigation cooldown will be a mitigation cooldown.

The issue isn't the amount of buttons you have to press but the fact they are mostly redundant with each other.

[SpiralMask]

No please no. Jobs are dumb enough to play already.

wouldnt collapsing certain skills to a single button (either as a toggle or an autocombo) free up more hotbar room for things to be added to a class, presumably to increase depth elsewhere and make classes "less dumb"?