Combining some buttons into one

[Cyreil]

For SMN, I'd like to see the Enkindle skills merged into one. I also think that Summon Bahamut and Dreadwyrm Trance needs to be merged together to function like Firebird Trance, meaning that the Trance and the demi summon happens at the same time. Of course, this would only happen at the appropriate level when Bahamut is accessed at level 70, so he needs to be a trait upgrade for Dreadwyrm Trance.

[SamRF]

Not to OP but some other posts in this thread about combos:

If they'd ever consider putting combos into 1 button, it should be optional imo. Having multiple combo buttons makes it easier for me to manage and map abilities in my rotation in a way that makes more sense to the mind scheme, so it's more convenient for me to have them on multiple buttons instead of 1.

In PVP it doesn't really matter since it's all about berserking and burst there so it sort of makes sense to have them on 1 button.

[ctcc42]

There is no reason for the Ninja's 'Dream within a Dream', and Assasinate to use two seperate buttons.

Assassinate can only be used within 15 seconds of using 'Dream within a Dream'. 'Dream within a Dream' can only be used once every 60 seconds.

So there is no point at which we need both these buttons present on the bar. The 'Dream within a dream' button should become Assassinate for 15 seconds after it is used.

[Macleod]

There is no reason for the Ninja's 'Dream within a Dream', and Assasinate to use two seperate buttons.

Assassinate can only be used within 15 seconds of using 'Dream within a Dream'. 'Dream within a Dream' can only be used once every 60 seconds.

So there is no point at which we need both these buttons present on the bar. The 'Dream within a dream' button should become Assassinate for 15 seconds after it is used.

This would be great, truly one of those "pointless" extra buttons.

[SomeRandomHuman]

If I understand the functionality properly, that would make Assassinate hard/impossible to buffer after Dream within a Dream if your connection is poor enough since a repeated press of the button would register as Dream before the button "Transforms." Or the reverse could happen: Since they're the same button, you may be prone to accidentally buffering Assassinate when you don't want to. Both being separate buttons is 100% justified.

Any kind of suggestion can be countered by latency issues.

What is being said here is that once DwD is registered to have been used it switches to assassinate for 15 seconds and has the taxi combo glow until that 15 seconds of server time goes by or it's used and then switches back to DwD. It would operate just like any other combined pvp combo. Tele to wolves den on a tank and hit the dummy using the combine combo. the first action becomes the 2nd after inital use, but if you don't press it again before the combo timer resets it automatically goes back the 1st.

The basic system is already in place so if latency became an issue it just wouldn't register the use of DwD in the case of the former and for the latter the timer would just run out and auto-reset back to DwD.

[Seraphor]

I manage too, but it's far busier to play than, say, Dark Knight, which also has much simpler mitigation. You will be switching to different crossbars more often than most other classes, guaranteed, for identical DPS. And for what? A class doesn't need to be carpal tunnel-y to be engaging.

I play both GNB and DRK, and I wouldn't really say I switch (use expanded) hotbars more on one than the other.
In both cases I have pretty much all the offensive skills in one set of hotbars, plus Heart of Stone/TBN, then the expanded bars are cooldowns, passive abilities (like blood weapon) limit break, etc.

[Limonia]

If it wouldn't work for Dream Within a Dream / Assassinate, why does it work for Geirskogul / Nastrond or Earthly Star?

Actually, this is another reason why I created this topic. I want to know why it's seemingly technically possible to combine some oGCDs into one button, but not others.

As far as I understood what was said was if Dream/Assassinate would be combined, and you would press Dream while lagging, it could automatically register as if you want to do Assassinate as well, so you would use 2 instead of 1 oGCD and thus clip your GCD. Or did you mean something else?

[Tsaranoga]

They won't do it, because it gives the "hardcore" player the illusion of complexity, which does not exist. Some feel good "i succeeded in this hard to pull of combo". Now that's hilarious. You just press the same buttons, there is nothing to "pull off". without an actual combat system which requires you to do something more than run in circles, there can be no complexity, you can't even call this a combat system.