Combining some buttons into one

[Stepjam]

The thing is, combining those buttons can still lead to more intriguing gameplay. If the devs want to keep the button count within a certain range, dead skills that serve no purpose outside of niche uses that could just as easily be merged with other skills block actually unique and rotation-enhancing skills from being added.

Like, between the lines can't be used outside of when Leylines is active, so whats the point of it being a separate button? leylines just went on CD to even use between the lines, so its not like its blocking you from using Leylines again. Merge the two, free up a button slot, then add something interesting in its place that enhances the job further.

Geirskogul <---> Nastrond is one of the best ways they've implemented it and it should be standard across all skills that have their effects locked behind the use of another skill. (Req -> Confitteor, Death flare + Enkindle Bahamut/Phoenix being all one button due to mutual exclusivity, all three parts of Gnashing fang being condensed to a single button so it's two buttons instead of 4, etc, the list could go on for a while.) Given that the alternative is that they straight remove stuff to fit their button criteria, condensing keeps all the skills around while allowing new skills to enter the fray, while also keeping the button count the same.

I think these are good ideas, but at the same time, someone else in the thread said that there's something in having the feedback of having certain skills get their own button, even if they are very situational. Like for instance having confitteor be it's own button, it feels more impactful for a better word as a stand alone button to cap off the requiescat phase than it would if it's just the 5th holy spirit press. But at the same time, I definitely see the benefit in something like making Summon and Enkindle bahamut/pheonix the same button. The casters in general feel pretty cluttered hotbar wise, so anything to clean them up a bit wouldn't go amiss (and this is someone who likes the casters).

[Derio]

They need to at least give us the option to do so. Unless next expansion they reduce the number of actions we currently have now.

[KalinOrthos]

Should collapse combos like the tanks' combos. Set the base path into 1 button and put the alternate finisher(storm's eye, and Goring blade for WAR/PLD respectively) into a 2nd button. Same for pretty much every other job with a linked combo like that. For red mage I like how pvp did it. Where verfire/stone turns into verthunder/aero. They already made thunder/aero turn into flare/holy and jolt turn into scorch so whats stopping them.

Oh dear god please no. I want more ways to end a combo, not less. This would be like merging every step of GF combo into 1 button, Continuation and all; you take away any sort of fun from the job.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Oh dear god please no. I want more ways to end a combo, not less. This would be like merging every step of GF combo into 1 button, Continuation and all; you take away any sort of fun from the job.

Except that Continuation is an oGCD and is already merged. I'm merely saying take the GF combo and pile it together like continuation. You can't use the other 2 parts of the combo otherwise. so instead of 1-4-2-4-3-4 it would be 1-4-1-4-1-4.

And more buttons =/= more fun. As mentioned in previous posts, if they can condense things reliant on other skills they don't have to prune things to make room for new ones. Like imagen they removed continuation to make room for another skill. And you can't say they won't, because they've removed things like it in the past.

They also removed several handy skills over the years. Most jobs lost at least 1 DoT skill over the course of the game. They also removed some simple oGCD damage abilities to make room for newer skills as well as some smaller scale buffs. Monk used to have a skill called internal release that increased their crit chance and pretty much every phyisical job except tanks could use it yet they removed it in HW and basically gave drg the same buff in a party form.

If you're against freeing up space so adamantly then you're essentially supporting needless skill pruning. But hey, you do you.

[sexythaumaturge]

Oh dear god please no. I want more ways to end a combo, not less. This would be like merging every step of GF combo into 1 button, Continuation and all; you take away any sort of fun from the job.

I'd love the Continuation combo on one button. Gunbreaker is completely unfriendly to the controller people.

[Xtrasweettea]

I'd love the Continuation combo on one button. Gunbreaker is completely unfriendly to the controller people.

You're speaking only for yourself. Now I am only going to speak for myself: I am a member of the "controller people" and find GNB very friendly. In my opinion, there's no need to make Continuation combo into one button.

[Seraphor]

I'd love the Continuation combo on one button. Gunbreaker is completely unfriendly to the controller people.

I play GNB on controller and I manage fine.
In fact it's far better than PLD.

[sexythaumaturge]

I play GNB on controller and I manage fine.
In fact it's far better than PLD.

I manage too, but it's far busier to play than, say, Dark Knight, which also has much simpler mitigation. You will be switching to different crossbars more often than most other classes, guaranteed, for identical DPS. And for what? A class doesn't need to be carpal tunnel-y to be engaging.

[Stepjam]

When you say "switching to different crossbars", I hope you don't mean like cycling through them with r1. Because there's a better way.
Otherwise, it's not that big of a deal to switch from R2 to L2 or R2 to R2>L2.

Also since it keeps popping up, pressing a single button repeatedly is just as likely to cause carpal tunnel as pressing different buttons. It's the repetitive action that causes it, not moving around.

[Controller]

I'd love the Continuation combo on one button. Gunbreaker is completely unfriendly to the controller people.

No it's not. It's fine as it is for controller players.. me being one of them on PS4. This is a you problem.. not a controller user problem. Leave gun breaker alone. SQUARE do not listen to this man please. D: I love Gun breaker as it is.