The extra bonuses in gathering, why isn't the 2 extra gathering attempts shown?

[Angelhearth]

You can see if you get 4 items per try, and 100% per try, but there is no way to see if you get 6 tries, which is seriously annoying, because it makes the 2 extra attempts nearly useless. Can you please fix this? And I can't be the first one that has pointed it out?

[Mhaeric]

The number of swings is specific to the type of node and any variation will show as +x attempts in the bonus section of the gathering interface, so you will always know it ahead of time. E.g. normal ARR nodes have a base of 4 attempts, most timed nodes have a base 6 attempts, etc. If you can't remember it then you can also see it on the node's health bar in real time. It's not a numerical indicator, but it's pretty clear to tell whether it is 25%, 20% or 16% of the bar is being used up with each swing.

[Kirika-]

All normal nodes are 4 hit by default.
Any "buff" aka added bonus feature of the node will show it its target or window (unless you have auto-loot enabled, then you get a different loot window which does not display any bonus), such as +2 additional hits.
All legendary, unspoiled, or ephemeral aka Timed Nodes, have 6 hits by default, with any "buff" from a bonus feature shown in its window or target.
If you happen to not qualify for the bonus feature, due to lack of Gathering or Perception skill or by GP points, then you don't get the feature bonus.
For example, if the node has a +2 hits if you have 1000 Gathering skill, and you have 990, then you do not get the extra +2 hits and on a normal node this mean only 4 hits. If it was a timed nodes (legendary, unspoiled, or ephemeral), this means you only get the default 6 hits and not 8.

So, all nodes show a bonus feature if it has one and if you qualify, you get those bonuses.
Otherwise normal nodes are 4 hits and timed node are 6 hits.

[Angelhearth]

Have you actually seen this for yourselves, or are you just imagining it has to be that way, because the 4+1 shows? I have never been able to see the 4+2, anywhere, and I've looked as good as I can. The 4 per try, 100% for each try and +2 on every try are not common, they are RNG. Maybe, if what you say is correct, you could put up a picture and explaining what I need to do to get it visible?

EDIT
These are ordinary nodes I'm talking about.

[Mhaeric]

This google took me 10 seconds.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...the_ephemeral/



And if you mean specifically the +2 gathering attempts as opposed to just the +1 which you're seeing... they're just rarer. They absolutely exist and message the exact same way.

[Kirika-]

Have you actually seen this for yourselves, or are you just imagining it has to be that way, because the 4+1 shows? I have never been able to see the 4+2, anywhere, and I've looked as good as I can. The 4 per try, 100% for each try and +2 on every try are not common, they are RNG. Maybe, if what you say is correct, you could put up a picture and explaining what I need to do to get it visible?

EDIT
These are ordinary nodes I'm talking about.

They are RNG, all of them, and then also by skill check. (The only variant of this is all ARR node clusters, 4, and all HW and higher node clusters, 6, will always have at least one +1 item per hit node)
Yes, I have seen +2 hits, +9 items per hit, 100% Quality, and any versions/quantities of these on normal nodes.
These feature always show on either the target line of the node or the normal loot window as buffs or percentages. They also always show the prerequisite, if present, to obtain the bonus.
On timed node I have seen +2 hits and/or various Quality up to 100%.
If at anytime the skill required is not met, either by Gathering, Perception, or GP, then while the bonus is visible, you do not get the buff to the node and don't get the benefits.

[Kirika-]

To add, these from just a few minutes ago in North Thanalan with me mining...
NOTE: The Location Effect section of the loot window, which does not always show on the target line:

A Unspoiled Node

Same Unspoiled node showing its buff, Gathering Fortune +30%


Normal node ARR, with +1 item buff, this being the one node in a 4-Cluster having the default +1 item buff.
NOTE: It has the feature on both the target line and loot window:


Normal node ARR, no buffs:


Normal node ARR, having Gatherer Fortune +5% buff.
NOTE: It has the feature on both the target line and loot window:


And finally, a normal node ARR with +2 hit buff.
NOTE: It only shows on the loot window:

[Mhaeric]

The ones on the target line are the standard bonuses that are always the same for the specific nodes they appear on and show up if the bonus appears. This is why it appears on the target line for that node, and also why you tend to get the same bonus on a given node.

The ones that don't show up on the target line are truly random and can appear on any node. The reason they don't show up on the target line is that they're not tied to the node in question and thus only appear in the bonus section of the gathering window. This is also why you will sometimes get a different bonus than the one specific to a given node.

[Angelhearth]

To add, these from just a few minutes ago in North Thanalan with me mining...
NOTE: The Location Effect section of the loot window, which does not always show on the target line:

A Unspoiled Node

Same Unspoiled node showing its buff, Gathering Fortune +30%


Normal node ARR, with +1 item buff, this being the one node in a 4-Cluster having the default +1 item buff.
NOTE: It has the feature on both the target line and loot window:


Normal node ARR, no buffs:


Normal node ARR, having Gatherer Fortune +5% buff.
NOTE: It has the feature on both the target line and loot window:


And finally, a normal node ARR with +2 hit buff.
NOTE: It only shows on the loot window:

Ok, then I change my question to the developers. "Why in someone holy's name do you only put it there, where no one, but the those who really know where to look, finds it?". I have actually never, ever, seen that part of the window, probably because I thought all relevant information was already available, and I never moved my eyes that far down (or is there a special setting needed?).

[Mhaeric]

How is that hard to notice? It's right there in the only window that comes up when you click on a node. It's not like they hid it behind a secondary menu or button you have to click to access it.

This does give me more insight into why you post so many complaints/questions about things that are basic information or obvious. You come across something you see as a possible issue, don't bother to research it or even really look at the information in-game and then come to the forums to post about it. I get it, some people aren't detail-oriented and need help with having the obvious stuff pointed out to them. And some people are social and just like to chat about stuff instead of looking it up themselves. What I can't wrap my head around, however, is the entitled Karen attitude you frequently cop with it. Particularly since your complaints are invariably about some minor detail that isn't even an issue. Like, why? I'm just going to put you on ignore and be done with providing answers to protect my sanity.