Thread: 5.3 is a long way from now so...

Originally Posted by basketofseals

That's really entirely subjective. Just because you don't consider it quality doesn't make it so.

You can find people in the Firmament and the Diadem all hours of the day. I'd say that makes it quality regardless of my opinion on gatherer/crafters. People are engaging in the content in large volumes with little complaint.

Fact is, FFXIV playerbase is made of niches. We have two majority groups which is "people who complete the MSQ" people who use glamours. Everything else is a minority. Raiding, roleplaying, gold saucer minigames, housing, side quests, gathering, crafting, BLU, PVP, etc. are all minorities that SE caters to, and sometimes you just have to accept that the content being made isn't for you.

I have been in the Diadem. While yes, people are there. It's no more than a handful. Likewise, the same goes for the Firmament. The population pretty much crashed the moment the crafting ranks halted. Regardless, I'm referring to the 500,000 Skybuilder points on every DoL/H job. That isn't quality content no more than grinding 10,000 FATEs is. The Firmament itself is fine, and actually pretty decent.

And I do a lot of that content. It still doesn't last unless you do every little thing. That may be their model but that doesn't absolve it from criticism. Hence why practically every other Q&A people bring up Mythic+ and a slew of other things.

Originally Posted by basketofseals

As for savage, around 90% of the NA playerbase doesn't clear the final fight in a given tier. We're not all starving with nothing to do because we don't raid savage. There's content in the game, and just because you don't like it doesn't make it a design flaw.

You're implying all I do is Savage. Which is quite not only an assumption but an incorrect one. I've done everything from FATE grinds, crafting all the way to Ultimate. So please spare me the "you're just a raider" nonsense. I simply disagree. The game doesn't have a bevy of content if you're actively playing for any significant length of time. Sure, if you're only playing a handful of hours a week, you'll be tons waiting. But if not, you're burn through everything even at a slow pace. I brought up 5.1 for a reason. The Firmament and Ultimate are the only two things with any sort of longevity to them. The relic typically fills this gap but it's over in a heartbeat now.