Why people still USE ACT knowing their breaking TOS ??

[Drakeos]

Seeing streamers using these on their stream and also non raiders (group parties/dungeons) maybe ffxiv need to add their own version of parsing to remove need of addons/plugins ???

[Darkobra]

It's mainly a thing to cover Square. So if you choose to download anything like that and there's technical issues or viruses, Square will simply tell you it's against their terms to even use them so your help will be next to nothing. I doubt they'll actually ban someone using them.

[Rasikko]

It's mainly a thing to cover Square. So if you choose to download anything like that and there's technical issues or viruses, Square will simply tell you it's against their terms to even use them so your help will be next to nothing. I doubt they'll actually ban someone using them.

They can and did, they did it to one streamer and it caused a big fuss.

Edit: It was because the streamer used it to criticize someone and was rather nasty about it too.

[Enla]

They can and did, they did it to one streamer and it caused a big fuss.

Edit: It was because the streamer used it to criticize someone and was rather nasty about it too.

That was also the straw that broke the camel's back, but not in regards to parsers. The person they were being nasty to had been on one of the Japanese player black-lists for awhile and that wasn't the first time people were apparently nasty towards them. And especially not the first time people have dragged someone through the mud on stream either. They ended up making that Streamer an example, and rightly so, but it was well in line with their bottom line in regards to parsers. What was odd about it is that it was one of the first bans they handed out for saying something on a stream as before the harassment had to happen in game in order to get their attention. However given how much of a problem those black lists happen to be it's really not surprising it happened.

[Gothicshark]

It's mainly a thing to cover Square. So if you choose to download anything like that and there's technical issues or viruses, Square will simply tell you it's against their terms to even use them so your help will be next to nothing. I doubt they'll actually ban someone using them.

It's deeper than that, their choice to not allow addons was due to the toxic environment found in games like WOW that had them. So the designed the game in a way as to not need end game addons. They then banned the use of aftermarket mods, both for the legal and to avoid toxic game elements.

As to banning the use, they will if you tell them you use them. As SE is really on the ball when it comes to enforcing rule breaks when they know about it, and can prove it.

[Ayuhra]

It's deeper than that, their choice to not allow addons was due to the toxic environment found in games like WOW that had them. So the designed the game in a way as to not need end game addons. They then banned the use of aftermarket mods, both for the legal and to avoid toxic game elements.

As to banning the use, they will if you tell them you use them. As SE is really on the ball when it comes to enforcing rule breaks when they know about it, and can prove it.

While this is true I feel like the addon ban is also an issue of practicality since there are console players in this game and they play on the same servers as PC players. If addons were allowed then playstation users would be left in the dust in many cases, it's not fair to them. (This is why ESO, which definitely allows addons, has different servers for different platforms)

[Sallian]

They don't want to add damage meters to avoid toxicity but they turn a blind eye to people using them as long as they are not calling people out and being abusive with it.

[MichiPichi]

They don't want to add damage meters to avoid toxicity but they turn a blind eye to people using them as long as they are not calling people out and being abusive with it.

This never made much sense to me, cause can't they still do that with their own parsers? They can still look at chat logs at people being toxic about dps.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

This never made much sense to me, cause can't they still do that with their own parsers? They can still look at chat logs at people being toxic about dps.

I think the thought is if they add it to the game, then it becomes required, and people cant escape it.

Not that I agree with people being dead weights, but it is what it is.

[KageTokage]

I think the thought is if they add it to the game, then it becomes required, and people cant escape it.

Not that I agree with people being dead weights, but it is what it is.

Technically, you can't even escape it now because if you raid people will be uploading parses with your data and people will be able to search for them even if you haven't actually signed up for FFLogs.

Which I why I think they seriously need to have an option to just go anonymous and have your name removed from all parses in general. The current situation sucks because it places pressure on people to parse themselves lest FFLogs be potentially painting a very inaccurate image of their performance due to only some of their fights being parsed.