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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post


    I remember seeing this set and thinking that the vest would be so cool for monk... then I found out that the dress is part of the chest piece. I would love to be able to toggle things like this off.
    Rather than adding a toggle, I wish they'd just stop designing things this way. Why design pants for the set when they're going to be covered by a full-length skirt? Most pants in this game look very basic and similar to each other anyway.
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    Glamouring in general in FFXIV needs an upgrade. There's far older MMOs out there that do it so much better.
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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    More customizations are good.
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    As a hobby 3D modeller who makes stuff for games, it's not really possible for a few technical reasons.

    Server space, as mentioned, but moreso there could be an FPS drop which could impact people with potatoes (either more draw calls, or more textures). Making hidable parts doubles or triples the time artists need to spend on everything. 3d Model and textures. So rather than making male and female and potentially race versions, they then need to model those with and without various parts. QA then need to test all that.

    This artist and QA time, also takes effort away from making new playable content.
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    Last edited by Shibi; 06-14-2020 at 08:59 AM.
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    The Warg chestpieces, the Ravel Casting/Healing chestpiece, and the Bonewicca Tank/Aiming chestpieces are among the worst offenders for me and I desperately wish there were versions without the ugly tails and skirt/dress portions.
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  6. #36
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    Some players mentioned the technical aspect of this request. To say that it is not possible.
    To these players, I would like to answer this (if I seem discourteous, it is not my intention):


    The purpose of this request is not to find out whether this is possible or not. The purpose of this request is to find out if it interests other players, to be visible to developers and - who knows? - to succeed.

    If you are part of the FFXIV development team and therefore know their constraints of time, budget, programming, their priorities ... then, yes, the opinion you express is relevant. If you are not part of the FFXIV development team and therefore do not know their constraints of time, budget, programming, their priorities ... then, no, the opinion you express is not not relevant. Don't speak for them.
    Yes, it can be difficult - if not impossible - to put in place. Yes, the time and resources made available for this would not be allocated to other developments. But don't speak for them.

    You can say that it seems difficult - if not impossible - to set up, but not that it is. You can say it sounds secondary, but not that it is. Even then, discussing the feasibility of the request is irrelevant to the request.

    For my part, I am well aware of not knowing anything about the limits and constraints that this implies. However, I play FFXIV. I know what I would like to see changed when I play it.
    Just as I ask you not to speak on behalf of the developers, I am not speaking on behalf of the players. I can just hope that this request interests other players and that these players support it. And ... who knows?

    Again, and I insist: if I seem discourteous, it is not my intention.


    Original version (French):
    Des joueurs ont mentionné l'aspect technique de cette requête. Pour dire que ce n'est pas possible.

    A ces joueurs, j'aimerais répondre ceci (si j'ai l'air discourtois, ce n'est pas mon intention):

    Cette requête n'a pas pour objectif de savoir si c'est possible ou pas. Cette requête a pour objectif de savoir si elle intéresse d'autres joueurs, d'être visible des développeurs et - qui sait? - d'aboutir.

    Si vous faites partie de l'équipe de développement de FFXIV et que donc vous connaissez leurs contraintes de temps, de budget, de programmation, leurs priorités... alors, oui, l'avis que vous exprimez est pertinent. Si vous ne faites pas partie de l'équipe de développement de FFXIV et que donc vous ne connaissez pas leurs contraintes de temps, de budget, de programmation, leurs priorités... alors, non, l'avis que vous exprimez n'est pas pertinent. Ne parlez pas en leur nom.

    Oui, cela peut être difficile - voire impossible - à mettre en place. Oui, le temps et les moyens mis à disposition pour cela ne seraient pas alloués à d'autres développement. Mais ne parlez pas en leur nom.

    Vous pouvez dire que cela vous semble difficile - voire impossible - à mettre en place, mais pas que ça l'est. Vous pouvez dire que cela vous semble secondaire, mais pas que ça l'est. Même alors, discuter de la faisabilité de la requête est hors-sujet avec la requête.

    De mon côté, j'ai bien conscience de ne rien connaître aux limites et aux contraintes que cela implique. Par contre, je joue à FFXIV. Je sais ce que j'aimerais voir changer quand j'y joue.
    Tout comme je vous demande de ne pas parler au nom des développeurs, je ne parle pas au nom des joueurs. Je peux juste espérer que cette requête intéresse d'autres joueurs et que ces joueurs la soutiennent. Et... qui sait?

    Encore une fois, et j'insiste: si j'ai l'air discourtois, ce n'est pas mon intention.
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    Pagos Shirt

    + Quaintrelle's Ruffled Skirt

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    I like how it renders but I don't see the point of developing such a skirt if it's only to hide it.
    I would see the point of developing such a skirt if users could decide what to hide.
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  8. #38
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    The skirt is a running issue but doesn't seem to be by design, as such - more an unfortunate collision of gear display rules that they've never got back to fix (though I imagine it must be on their "to do if possible" list). The skirt is set to vanish if it's paired with tops that go below the waist, which is probably intended to stop it sticking through long skirts but instead just makes it turn off in combination with prettymuch everything.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Server space, as mentioned, but moreso there could be an FPS drop which could impact people with potatoes (either more draw calls, or more textures). Making hidable parts doubles or triples the time artists need to spend on everything. 3d Model and textures. So rather than making male and female and potentially race versions, they then need to model those with and without various parts.
    Depends on if the engine supports submeshes or not. Trivial if it does with negligible impact on storage, cpu, or rendering load. The modelers would need to assign the parts to their individual submesh but shouldn't be a big ask for a professional. Texture work shouldn't be impacted given appropriate tools.
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    Pagos Shirt

    + Exarchic Bottoms of Aiming

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    Please
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    1080p60 cheap pc build
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