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  1. #11
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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    This would make BLM a lot easier to play and also force people into using the "optional" speed modifier.

    This would only work if the potencies are further reduced than just to compensate for the faster speed. Especially when jobs like Bard having a movement tax on their dps.
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  2. #12
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    Gabriel Morgan
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    Adamantoise
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    Thanks for the tip. I managed to get a WAR build to 2.18s GCD.
    That's really not a great plan. You are gonna be losing a lot of crit and direct hit damage without much benefit from all that speed. The Balance recommends WAR's GCD be between 2.35-2.38 to make your Inner Release windows line up as well as possible and you probably aren't gaining an extra Fell Cleave during inner release because it's like 1 second gained from it. And even if you can, the loss of Crit and DH is still not good.
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  3. #13
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    Awful Sucker
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    This would be a gimmick that would probably be barely be used:

    * Monks exist and attack super fast
    * The % can't be small or it would be worthless to use
    * If the % speed is significant, square would destroy the potency in skills negating the benefit

    Maybe casuals and people trolling would use it to mess around, but that's about it in my opinion.
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  4. #14
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    Kiro Isamu
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stepjam View Post
    That's really not a great plan. You are gonna be losing a lot of crit and direct hit damage without much benefit from all that speed. The Balance recommends WAR's GCD be between 2.35-2.38 to make your Inner Release windows line up as well as possible and you probably aren't gaining an extra Fell Cleave during inner release because it's like 1 second gained from it. And even if you can, the loss of Crit and DH is still not good.
    Obviously I'm not doing high-end content with that build. Just one for fun.
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  5. #15
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    Kiro Isamu
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClickOnce View Post
    This would be a gimmick that would probably be barely be used:

    * Monks exist and attack super fast
    * The % can't be small or it would be worthless to use
    * If the % speed is significant, square would destroy the potency in skills negating the benefit

    Maybe casuals and people trolling would use it to mess around, but that's about it in my opinion.
    I can see lot's of low level players stuck with boring rotation using it. Imagine coming from WoW and having to suffer longer GCD as well as boring rotation for a long while, as you're starting out.
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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    so another person whinging about the gcd in this game. ok next.
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  7. #17
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    I can see lot's of low level players stuck with boring rotation using it. Imagine coming from WoW and having to suffer longer GCD as well as boring rotation for a long while, as you're starting out.
    So FFXIV should change to cater to people coming from other games? FFXIV has a 2.5 GCD because it was designed to have smooth and aesthetically attractive looking skill and spell animations. WoW animations are boring and basic because the GCD is so fast they can't make them last on screen for a long time. Imagine if the GCD was 1.5 or 2s, spells like Flare or Scorch would have to just be basic fireballs that flash for a second and then vanish. With a longer GCD you can have cool looking weapon attacks or elaborate spell animations.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    So FFXIV should change to cater to people coming from other games? FFXIV has a 2.5 GCD because it was designed to have smooth and aesthetically attractive looking skill and spell animations. WoW animations are boring and basic because the GCD is so fast they can't make them last on screen for a long time. Imagine if the GCD was 1.5 or 2s, spells like Flare or Scorch would have to just be basic fireballs that flash for a second and then vanish. With a longer GCD you can have cool looking weapon attacks or elaborate spell animations.
    Just an option btw that is turnt off by default and you can turn on/off whenever you want. If the GCD is too fast for the animation you just go into animation lock, as is the case right now with oGCDs.
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    Fuzon Shuzon
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    Since we're talking about GCDs from other games, I think there was some really crazy exploit with a warrior spec in vanilla wow that made them have to rework everything regarding GCD and DPS values. The guy was so good at exploiting the balance between skill speed and damage output, he ended up getting a job at "company that makes direct competitor to FFXIV."

    Definitely would be a pain to balance this in FFXIV (and look janky) but it would be really fun to mess around with.
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  10. #20
    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    Just an option btw that is turnt off by default and you can turn on/off whenever you want. If the GCD is too fast for the animation you just go into animation lock, as is the case right now with oGCDs.
    no you don't get to have it both ways. someone would find a way to cheat the system and have it on when it's not supposed to be.
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