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    Quote Originally Posted by madolyn View Post
    oh and whoever is talking about finishing a node quicker than you...you simply cannot prove that.
    I can make a video with an LS member if you need me to ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Riv View Post
    Were you same level? Hitting in the same spots? There are many reasons for this other than lag. A 50 miner can get most items in one swing when aimed at the correct position for that particular item, which you would know by looking at your remainder bar. This would effectively halve his mining time.
    This is not the issue, two level 50 gatherers who both hit the sweet spot every time but one is in EU and one it JP will not stay synced up if they start at the same time.

    As the post above said the JP player will finish up before the EU player, normally by 2-3 attempts.

    Shrug it off all you want but people who actually gather a lot have probably noticed this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    I can make a video with an LS member if you need me to ?



    This is not the issue, two level 50 gatherers who both hit the sweet spot every time but one is in EU and one it JP will not stay synced up if they start at the same time.

    As the post above said the JP player will finish up before the EU player, normally by 2-3 attempts.

    Shrug it off all you want but people who actually gather a lot have probably noticed this.
    I have gathered a lot and they do stay synced up, in the way this works it comes down to the player's speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon View Post
    I have gathered a lot and they do stay synced up, in the way this works it comes down to the player's speed.
    No it doesn't, but obviously you know better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    No it doesn't, but obviously you know better.
    I've got all gatherers to 50 too, lol. I do notice slight variation (we're human, after all) but never anyone finishing a node before me in the time that you suggest.
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    All the latency? Stop downloading so much porn. I have no noticeable latency and my ping is below 100 pretty much all the time. Unless you have a truly horrific service provider, live in a really crappy area, have a really crappy router, or a really crappy computer, you should not have noticeable latency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nasomi View Post
    All the latency? Stop downloading so much porn. I have no noticeable latency and my ping is below 100 pretty much all the time. Unless you have a truly horrific service provider, live in a really crappy area, have a really crappy router, or a really crappy computer, you should not have noticeable latency.
    I bet your latency is much higher than 100 if you are in the US.

    Try copy and pasting this into cmd promt.

    tracert -h 50 traceip.ffxiv.com

    Quote Originally Posted by Riv View Post
    I've got all gatherers to 50 too, lol. I do notice slight variation (we're human, after all) but never anyone finishing a node before me in the time that you suggest.
    Are you playing in the US, maybe you have just experienced the difference between other US players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riv View Post
    Were you same level? Hitting in the same spots? There are many reasons for this other than lag. A 50 miner can get most items in one swing when aimed at the correct position for that particular item, which you would know by looking at your remainder bar. This would effectively halve his mining time.
    Please don't suggest that just because I say something that doesn't match your opinion that I have no clue what I'm talking about. I've had all gathering jobs at 50 since last summer and started redoing them again for achievements.

    We were the same level (50), had roughly the same gear, and always got the gather in one swing. I was also going through the menus as fast as I possibly could to try and keep up with him, it was just impossible.

    Sorry to say, but it must be a latency issue. My connection and PC are far above average. This isn't the first time I've noticed it either. I've seen plenty of people that gather just as "slowly" as I do, but every now and then I come across a machine like the other day and it's like what. the. hell.

    For those of you who are so sure it's a nonissue, it may just be possible you've never had the misfortune to gather next to someone who can outspeed you so drastically. It's not exactly a common occurance. In fact I've only seen it a few times. Rest assured, it can happen and it's mighty upsetting.
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    Last edited by Victor; 04-12-2012 at 01:46 AM.

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    Since SE is giving us regional servers I think we can assume the jp button did exist and did for long time. They can and do craft, mine, and battle faster then we do in the US. I have seen them out mine me 3 to 1 at times during high latency. I do ping and troubleshoot my network daily. That is what I do for a living. I have been in contact with SE and Comcast on numerous occasions only to find they aggree with the argument that the ping times and latency is too high for US to compete with JP in this game. Server structure certainly does not help. Since Yoshi-P is giving us Regional Servers we can and should understand that him along with many others do understand the differences a ping can make and for now SE is willing to help when 2.0 comes out. In the mean time there is nothing we can do about it. Anyone who says they are living in say TN or IL or anywhere else in the US and has a better latency and ping time then JP in Japan are full of it.

    Incidently My ping on hop 15 to IP Address 202.67.52.81 was 208ms. My ping to default gateway in house is <1ms and my ping to my nearest node is under 2ms. My ping to a SE website to the coast in the US stays around 23ms. My ping does not go up or get worse till I live the continental US. By which from what you can see @208 is considerably higher.
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    Since its what you do for a living, you should also know time. This topic is 6 months since last was touched, dont necro dead threads ...
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    holy necrobump batman!
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