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  1. #71
    Player PewPewPewPewPew's Avatar
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    Gozonga Bijlomango
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    I actually have a house, I just meet many new and old people who would like one too. And they cant since half a year and I feel sorry for them, because there are dozens if not hundreds offline houses nobody uses anymore. If you cant pay a sub by now or have the time for it, you probably shouldn't play a video game anyway, as there are more pressing things.
    Like housing is a part of the game, it shouldn't be static, if they know this takes years to solve and go back to normal, they should try to find an alternative solution for the period. As they didn't make an announcement for this patch, it means its at least another 3 months + 45 days. That is plenty of time to give all the new players that they so desperately want a solution.
    Having a house doesn't give you a free pass in this argument.
    Feel sorry for the people struggling to pay for their actual house vs. people who can't get a virtual house.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by PewPewPewPewPew View Post
    Having a house doesn't give you a free pass in this argument.
    Feel sorry for the people struggling to pay for their actual house vs. people who can't get a virtual house.
    If they cant pay their actual house, why would they care about a virtual house?
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  3. #73
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    I'm fairly new to the game and have now settled down in an appartement.
    I'm mostly happy with that, since I don't need as much space as a house would provide.
    The only thing I'm really missing is a gardening option.
    Give appartements a balcony for gardening and (for those who want more space) the possibility to pay for some extra room and i think many people would be happy with that.
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  4. #74
    Player PewPewPewPewPew's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    If they cant pay their actual house, why would they care about a virtual house?
    Because losing game progress due to your real life sucks. I'm sure you would be first in line to complain if your internet went down, car broke down, something impacted your ability to log in on your 45th day to get your house. You'll be calling SE customer support like your baby just got kidnapped. Learn to have some empathy and get over it.
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    Why do people toss around empathy and compassion all the time? If you flip the board people on the other side can say the same thing.

    Do not have a dog in this race either way, but I just have this seeking suspension that the people that toss around the empathy and compassion cards on certain topics only play their empathy and compassion cards when it is convenient for them. It is easy to have empathy and compassion when it is not an inconvenience for you. For those looking for a house or want a house it may not be so hard.

    Do not get me wrong downplaying the impact of covid is not cool. I also do not think they should turn the timer back on, but I also do not think this is a matter lacking empathy or compassion like some people like to toss around.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Do not get me wrong downplaying the impact of covid is not cool. I also do not think they should turn the timer back on, but I also do not think this is a matter lacking empathy or compassion like some people like to toss around.
    It is when people say they were hoping to take advantage of the misfortunes from a global pandemic in order to get a house in a game. Of course most people who feel this way won't outright say that, but some like to rephrase it as "when you're sick, too busy or unemployed you don't care about a house in a game!" as if it somehow justifies wanting to take advantage of someone else's misfortune.

    I understand why demolition being suspended can suck for someone, demolition was suspended during a time when I had no house, but if a person starts throwing around that they need someone else to be very misfortunate in real life just so they can get a house from a game then I lose all sympathy for them. It's a disgusting mindset.

    Wanting to still have a chance to get a house? Fine. Wanting someone to go through hardships just so you can get a house? Not fine.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikari_Kishimoto View Post
    Give appartements a balcony for gardening and (for those who want more space) the possibility to pay for some extra room and i think many people would be happy with that.
    There had been hope that players would be able to do some gardening without a house when player-run farms were announced at one of the FanFests. Since then, the only times those farms have been mentioned is in connection with minions. So looks like it won't be happening soon but you never know.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    It is when people say they were hoping to take advantage of the misfortunes from a global pandemic in order to get a house in a game. Of course most people who feel this way won't outright say that, but some like to rephrase it as "when you're sick, too busy or unemployed you don't care about a house in a game!" as if it somehow justifies wanting to take advantage of someone else's misfortune.

    I understand why demolition being suspended can suck for someone, demolition was suspended during a time when I had no house, but if a person starts throwing around that they need someone else to be very misfortunate in real life just so they can get a house from a game then I lose all sympathy for them. It's a disgusting mindset.

    Wanting to still have a chance to get a house? Fine. Wanting someone to go through hardships just so you can get a house? Not fine.
    I do not think it is a matter of wanting to take advantage of someones misfortune. I am sure some people think like that, but I also do not think we should infer too much and come up with our own motivations as for why some word things the way they do.

    I can see where they are coming from. Yes it sucks but they do have a point even if I do not agree with it. They are actively able to play. So in their eyes the plot would prove to be more useful / provide more value in the hands of someone playing the game. This is objectively true. I do not think this line of thinking lacks empathy or compassion inherently.

    I think the word people are looking for is they lack sympathy instead of empathy. Do not think it is the lack of understanding per se. Just not willing to take part and share the same feeling. Hope what I am saying makes sense, sounded better in my head. Since I do not think I have seen one person express they wanted others to go through hardships just so they could get a house. More so said hardships that prevent one from playing ahould not bar those who can play from the chance at getting a plot.

    Do not agree but I can see where they are coming from.
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    Last edited by Awha; 08-07-2020 at 07:46 AM.

  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    player-run farms
    That actually sounds pretty cool. I'd invest in one, even though I rarely grow anything in my own bed. Anything to make the world feel more lively
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