Does Square intend to address Market botting?

[Rurouni_Auron]

One: You do not need to trade with the mules. You simply put the items in the company box and they can pick them up from there
Two: No one said anything about people.. if anything those are poor bastards. It is about their policies, processes and procedures which are all shit and prevents them from acting quickly
Three: My strategy with that dipshit is simple but frustrating.. figure out his breaking point, post the item at it with his price + 1 gil, let him take the shitty sale and up your price again
You may sell an item or two at a low price (never at a loss because their breaking point is almost the cost to make + around 10,000 gil)
It has been working well and is somewhat satisfying but it is very exhausting and time consuming

[KageTokage]

It's kind of silly that they aren't more active about getting rid of the bots when the FC rankings effectively make it impossible for them to hide their excessive activity (Unless they're one of the odd few aren't in a FC).

[Jojoya]

It's kind of silly that they aren't more active about getting rid of the bots when the FC rankings effectively make it impossible for them to hide their excessive activity (Unless they're one of the odd few aren't in a FC).

But at least the FC bots make themselves easier to identify through activity. It's a place to start.

[Kes13a]

But at least the FC bots make themselves easier to identify through activity. It's a place to start.

unfortunately they may identify them but they do nothing about them. They cannot say "we are observing to get information about how they are doing it" thats nice and all, but nice isnt going to make the people who actually put in the time and effort feel any better about these bots continuing to exist

[Rurouni_Auron]

But at least the FC bots make themselves easier to identify through activity. It's a place to start.

You do not need to identify shit..

All you need to do is find a worthy item (Check Shinryu's Gunblade and Chakarms for example) and see if there's someone undercutting the price by 1 Gil.
Check their profile and company of that character: If it is a company of 9 characters, 1 main omnicrafter with 1 LV80 DoM or DoW job and 8 mules and no company estate then BINGO you found the shit.

Took me less than 10 minutes to find all those botting companies on each server of Chaos.

Evidently; you don't need to be smart to do all this, which tells a lot about the intelligence and IQ levels of SE support and special douchebag team.

[TheLoveJenovan]

Identifying bots is easier than that. They could start by polling their databases for accounts that have been active (i.e. not AFK) for more than 36 hours. This is so easy to do--it would literally take someone 5-10 minutes to write and execute the SQL query script--that it leads me to believe that SE truly doesn't care about the problem.

[TheLoveJenovan]

I've been sending back-and-forths with SE Customer Support, and it appears that they've outsourced this service to act as a "firewall" from their users. My original query was about getting a World Transfer credit after transferring to a new server inundated with market bots.

Message 1

We apologize for the inconvenience. Unfortunately, that service is not an available option. Although this service is not available, we will take this information and forward it as feedback to the appropriate department. While we cannot guarantee implementation, we would like to assure you that it will be reviewed by the appropriate party.

I’d otherwise be happy to pay for further transfers, but since the reason I am transferring is because Square Enix is not enforcing it’s TOS with bots, I’d like to at least transfer to a server in which there aren’t flagrant violations of the TOS. This wasn’t the case for my old server (Jenova) or the server I’ve transferred to (Zalera), which is why I’d like to try the Diablos server.

Ideally, it would be best if Square Enix just enforced its TOS. However, after months of reports in-game and reports to the Special Task Force, nothing has been done about these bots.

If you’d like more detailed information on this problem, I have participated actively on a thread.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...Market-botting

I even spent about 10 minutes identifying all of the market botting rings on the Crystal data center. These rings are on nearly every server, they almost all have top-10 Free Company standings for their respective server, they appear to be tied to RMT, and they have basically ruined the marketplace for legitimate players.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5431506

[Jojoya]

You do not need to identify [snip].

All you need to do is find a worthy item (Check Shinryu's Gunblade and Chakarms for example) and see if there's someone undercutting the price by 1 Gil.
Check their profile and company of that character: If it is a company of 9 characters, 1 main omnicrafter with 1 LV80 DoM or DoW job and 8 mules and no company estate then BINGO you found the [snip]

Which is a process of identifying likely botters.

So yes, identification is necessary. Otherwise SE might as well just ban your account because there's no need to identify who's actually botting, they can just pick players at random. Right?

[Commander_Justitia]

As expected the guy who posted names got banned, the irony

[Rurouni_Auron]

Yea I am the definitely the bad guy here and I deserved to be banned.. therefore; I will stop posting anything here or anywhere since it has not been contributing to anything but my own frustration and anger.
Good luck to you all selling items in this bot-infested game and this bot-promoting game, support and forum.
I will stick to selling Eurekan items since those bots cannot farm them (for now) and SE can stick to eating my black lalafel ass.